Raving .... mad

[7610 super q]

I suppose " helping " cars off the premises with the Manipoo is out of the question ?
If only it was the 1950's again. Sigh.

 

[Tarw Coch]

This was only a small one with around 200 people , the largest in the same yard was 3000 people , no arrests and after a few months the organisers were given back their equipment that was confiscated... when I told the police I would get some machinery to block the road to stop anymore people driving to the site I was told in no uncertain terms if I blocked the road I would be arrested . also a fire officer arrived and informed me that if anything was blocking exits or there was any machines in the building that people could injure themselves on I would be liable ..

Police are around the area in force apparently because there is a planned rave in the near by forestry.
By the sounds of it, it will be fine to attend as the police will be after the land owner not the ravers or organizers.

I’m lost for words about what this says about the state of this country but it’s evident that the police aren’t able to enforce law and order.

 

[lazy farmer]

So from today, as a landowner, you may well be liable for £10,000 fine if an illegal rave sets up on your land as you will be considered to be the “organiser” or “facilitator” if I’ve understood the law correctly
WTF

Coronavirus: Illegal rave organisers face new £10,000 fines

It comes as police forces across England break up dozens of gatherings, including street parties.

www.bbc.com

Fines up to £10,000 for organisers of raves introduced | ITV News

Officers have responded to a surge in unlicensed music events in recent weeks amid warm weather and an easing of lockdown restrictions. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

Nothing to see here. That’s not what the law says or what it is intended to do.

 

[egbert]

What makes a rave 'illegal'? A bunch of folks on private property in the middle of nowhere listening to bad music and taking drugs? How is that any different to any other organised festival?

er....if they don't have permission?

Obviously, if they do, then Ricks concern holds up,

 

[sean m]

I’m lost for words about what this says about the state of this country but it’s evident that the police aren’t able to enforce law and order.

we have got a horse fair in the area this weekend,police on the radio saying they had no powers to stop it as it is on private land,they will have a presence there to ensure social distancing is adhered to though,anyway no worries because the organiser is only expecting 150 people,all dogs here have had there beds taken away and liquid crack poured on their dinners

 

[teslacoils]

we have got a horse fair in the area this weekend,police on the radio saying they had no powers to stop it as it is on private land,they will have a presence there to ensure social distancing is adhered to though,anyway no worries because the organiser is only expecting 150 people,all dogs here have had there beds taken away and liquid crack poured on their dinners

Ideal time to pull folk in and check tax, insurance, red diesel, working brake lights.....

 

[yellowbelly]

There was a rave on new year's eve, in a yard where we had some grazing, a few years ago. Round bales rolled in dykes, beer bottles everywhere

The the next morning they were all out of their skulls on booze and drugs but the law didn't mind - they shoved 'em all back in their cars and sent them on their way, no arrests. They said there was too many for them to cope with

 

[Muddyroads]

What makes a rave 'illegal'? A bunch of folks on private property in the middle of nowhere listening to bad music and taking drugs? How is that any different to any other organised festival?

Apparently there’s some kind of virus around.

 

[Danllan]

So from today, as a landowner, you may well be liable for £10,000 fine if an illegal rave sets up on your land as you will be considered to be the “organiser” or “facilitator” if I’ve understood the law correctly
WTF

Coronavirus: Illegal rave organisers face new £10,000 fines

It comes as police forces across England break up dozens of gatherings, including street parties.

www.bbc.com

Fines up to £10,000 for organisers of raves introduced | ITV News

Officers have responded to a surge in unlicensed music events in recent weeks amid warm weather and an easing of lockdown restrictions. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

You have not understood the law correctly.

 

[Bald Rick]

You have not understood the law correctly.

Probably not but something about making landowners liable was mentioned on the tranny
Nothing surprises me these days

 

[unlacedgecko]

Ideal time to pull folk in and check tax, insurance, red diesel, working brake lights.....

how dare you suggest persecuting a vulnerable ethnic minority like that.

 

[unlacedgecko]

I’m lost for words about what this says about the state of this country but it’s evident that the police aren’t able to enforce law and order.

Man fined £1,000 for rubbish left by travellers on his field

The man was ordered to pay nearly £1,000 after he refused to clear the rubbish left by travellers from his land

metro.co.uk

Police dontcar about enforcing law and order. Their purpose is to maintain a compliant tax paying population and maximise revenue for the treasury.

Far easier togo after wealthy individuals with mortgages, businesses, registered addresses, debts they have to service etc than someone who has no stake in society.

 

[teslacoils]

how dare you suggest persecuting a vulnerable ethnic minority like that.

Stealing part of their unique cultural heritage.

 

[teslacoils]

The very idea of plod turning up to a horse fair, having a pleasant walk around and a cup of tea. You can just imagine the briefing "ffs don't arrest anyone!"

 

[Danllan]

Probably not but something about making landowners liable was mentioned on the tranny
Nothing surprises me these days

A typical 'media opinion' about a law regarding xyz will take as an example the most ridiculous scenario they can think of and then follow with something such as '... could possibly see...'

I can't see anything in the law - as it stands or in any proposed, sane*, amendments I've heard of - that would see a landowner held as responsible, complicit etc. without his having been demonstrably so in a way that a reasonable person woulds see it as such. There is no need for any concern about this, its b*llocks.


*i.e. excluding from Momentum / Woke, SJW, mass-trespass advocate types


(And, ffs, stop spending so much time around trannys - trannies? - you'll get a reputation)

 

[unlacedgecko]

A typical 'media opinion' about a law regarding xyz will take as an example the most ridiculous scenario they can think of and then follow with something such as '... could possibly see...'

I can't see anything in the law - as it stands or in any proposed, sane*, amendments I've heard of - that would see a landowner held as responsible, complicit etc. without his having been demonstrably so in a way that a reasonable person woulds see it as such. There is no need for any concern about this, its b*llocks.


*i.e. excluding from Momentum / Woke, SJW, mass-trespass advocate types


(And, ffs, stop spending so much time around trannys - trannies? - you'll get a reputation)

See my post #32

 

[Danllan]

See my post #32

What's a Police dontcar; is it the new name for a 'jam-sandwich' or what?

As for the rest, yep, he should have got a decent legal team.

 

[unlacedgecko]

What's a Police dontcar; is it the new name for a 'jam-sandwich' or what?

As for the rest, yep, he should have got a decent legal team.

don‘t care Fat fingers, small buttons.

 

[Danllan]

don‘t care Fat fingers, small buttons.

Does she care?

 

[Bald Rick]

A typical 'media opinion' about a law regarding xyz will take as an example the most ridiculous scenario they can think of and then follow with something such as '... could possibly see...'

I can't see anything in the law - as it stands or in any proposed, sane*, amendments I've heard of - that would see a landowner held as responsible, complicit etc. without his having been demonstrably so in a way that a reasonable person woulds see it as such. There is no need for any concern about this, its b*llocks.


*i.e. excluding from Momentum / Woke, SJW, mass-trespass advocate types


(And, ffs, stop spending so much time around trannys - trannies? - you'll get a reputation)

But as the law stands, landowners are responsible for flytipping. It is a comparatively small step to being responsible for an illegal rave