Red devil

[devonbeef]

How do people get on with cattle which have had to have one put in, have had to get one put in a few nights ago.
Do they go on to thrive?
Do you remove them yourself?
I am concerned about what happens on removal i guess the idea is self seal?
Mine would not have survived without intervention that night so had little choice over many years never had to put one in, had to puncture a hole (needle) with a vet guiding me over the phone a few years back, that one went onto thrive but devil hole is a lot bigger!

 

[Tamar]

For those that are clueless to what you are talking about............. a stomach punch to relieve bloat

 

[harperfarmer]

How do people get on with cattle which have had to have one put in, have had to get one put in a few nights ago.
Do they go on to thrive?
Do you remove them yourself?
I am concerned about what happens on removal i guess the idea is self seal?
Mine would not have survived without intervention that night so had little choice over many years never had to put one in, had to puncture a hole (needle) with a vet guiding me over the phone a few years back, that one went onto thrive but devil hole is a lot bigger!

They work really effectively and we've generally always got on well with the few we've had to put in. They tend to work their way out over time, by which time the bloat issues have normally resolved themselves. The cattle thrive just fine. The only time it didn't work for whatever reason we couldn't get one to stay in the side of a suckled steer. Whether he was licking it or rubbing it, it kept winding itself out. We stitched it in and it still ripped the stitches and came out so in the end we just stitched a hole in the steer and did away with the red devil.

 

[devonbeef]

They work really effectively and we've generally always got on well with the few we've had to put in. They tend to work their way out over time, by which time the bloat issues have normally resolved themselves. The cattle thrive just fine. The only time it didn't work for whatever reason we couldn't get one to stay in the side of a suckled steer. Whether he was licking it or rubbing it, it kept winding itself out. We stitched it in and it still ripped the stitches and came out so in the end we just stitched a hole in the steer and did away with the red devil.

that's good to hear thank you

 

[Zippy768]

Always had good success with them. Have never removed one, usually fall out them selves and the hole heals itself.
I find the animal naturally stalls abit. It's probably had to of been de-blown with a tube a couple of times, then gets a hole cut in its side. There is also the idea that it is probably one of the lesser animals that succumbs anyway, as maybe a result of pneumonia damage.
I should learn to do it ourselves as probably best off getting it in early rather than try to manage the problem without vet intervention. We have had success taking said animal off of concentrates and just leave on hay or silage.

We had an animal have a red devil at the beginning of Jan. Even with it in it wouldn't de-blow. Very curious. Penned it on its own and had just silage. Which stopped the blowing. 2 weeks later the red devil fell out......vet had left the cap on the end !
Obviously once it's out, it can't go back it.
Kept it on silage and slowing increased the straights for him. Back in a smaller group now, but alongggg way behind

 

[devonbeef]

Always had good success with them. Have never removed one, usually fall out them selves and the hole heals itself.
I find the animal naturally stalls abit. It's probably had to of been de-blown with a tube a couple of times, then gets a hole cut in its side. There is also the idea that it is probably one of the lesser animals that succumbs anyway, as maybe a result of pneumonia damage.
I should learn to do it ourselves as probably best off getting it in early rather than try to manage the problem without vet intervention. We have had success taking said animal off of concentrates and just leave on hay or silage.

We had an animal have a red devil at the beginning of Jan. Even with it in it wouldn't de-blow. Very curious. Penned it on its own and had just silage. Which stopped the blowing. 2 weeks later the red devil fell out......vet had left the cap on the end !
Obviously once it's out, it can't go back it.
Kept it on silage and slowing increased the straights for him. Back in a smaller group now, but alongggg way behind

Thank you Zippy , this one had no excuse really, had her from a calf. been as fit as a fiddle, don,t really understand reason.You should not be charged for your unplugged one.

 

[Zippy768]

Thank you Zippy , this one had no excuse really, had her from a calf. been as fit as a fiddle, don,t really understand reason.You should not be charged for your unplugged one.

Vet was here to do a pre movement test. They will be deducting the 30 mins though

 

[David.]

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