Red Tractor, Mrs Batters remarks!

[Henarar]

No it won't - under WTO rules you are not allowed to discriminate between countries. If the UK sets a zero tariff for beef it applies to all countries, Brazil, the ROI and everyone else.

We would be allowed to discriminate against hormone beef and the like I would have thought?

 

[Werzle]

You were harsh

If you're keeping cattle on less than challenged grazing land, you could be asked why you're farming beef on that ground.

If you're farming cattle that cannot naturally calve their own calves or finish on cereal heavy diet you could get challenged

Most folks farming try to do the best they can given their farm's capabilities in terms of topography, soil type, precipitation, access to markets.

One of THE greatest assets we have in the UK is a fantastic and diverse range of farming conditions and breeds / regional types that have evolved to harness these to best advantage

Your competitor is not another British cattle farmer and we should celebrate the dedication and stockmanship of all livestock farmers in the UK

Not all unchallenged ground is good for crops and eu rules prevent alot of it being ploughed ,as a drive around the country would prove. Anything that calves out the side door here ,doesnt get the chance again and the uk's beef farmer biggest enemy isnt his neighbour or his foreign counterpart, its foreign owned slaughterhouses, supermarkets and government.

 

[Henarar]

what we need is a good old Somerset breed @JP1

 

[JP1]

Not all unchallenged ground is good for crops and eu rules prevent alot of it being ploughed as a drive around the country would prove. Anything that calves out the side door doesnt get the chance again and the uk's beef farmer biggest enemy isnt his neighbour or his foreign counterpart, its foreign owned slaughterhouses, supermarkets and government.

Not so sure on all of that

I think in $ and also in PR terms feedlot foreign beef is a real competitor

 

[JP1]

View attachment 765178 what we need is a good old Somerset breed @JP1

I must ask Andrew (over a pint some time) about those wide belts. In Belted, a wide belt almost always brings white feet too

 

[JP1]

View attachment 765178 what we need is a good old Somerset breed @JP1

BG x SD cows. What's your opinion of them? Bigger frame to take a terminal sire over them

 

[Werzle]

We would be allowed to discriminate against hormone beef and the like I would have thought?

If we set a tariff which then means beef from anywhere can come in, can we then set rules about what type of beef comes in, hormone free, assured etc etc.

 

[Werzle]

Not so sure on all of that

I think in $ and also in PR terms feedlot foreign beef is a real competitor

Only if government allows it in

 

[JP1]

Only if government allows it in

Fox already agreed (allegedly)

 

[Henarar]

BG x SD cows. What's your opinion of them? Bigger frame to take a terminal sire over them

We had two as you know one was more south devon like and one more belty like, TBO as mentioned above its horses for courses and the living here is to good for beltys the more south devon one is going strong though but fat as butter sold her calf yesterday and one of the best this year still milking at 10 months too
They are well able to take a blue and put out a good calf and would cope with a lot worse conditions than we have

 

[JP1]

We had two as you know one was more south devon like and one more belty like, TBO as mentioned above its horses for courses and the living here is to good for beltys the more south devon one is going strong though but fat as butter sold her calf yesterday and one of the best this year still milking at 10 months too
They are well able to take a blue and put out a good calf and would cope with a lot worse conditions than we have

Thanks

I was asking as I know my neighbour might sell off a couple of SD cows and they'd be a good click with my Beltie bull, offspring always Belted markings I presume

 

[Henarar]

Thanks

I was asking as I know my neighbour might sell off a couple of SD cows and they'd be a good click with my Beltie bull, offspring always Belted markings I presume

I wouldn't know but you know who to ask

 

[Werzle]

Fox already agreed (allegedly)

Whole point of brexit was to take back control and make the countrys policy become uk first . Brexit will be blamed but its ministers and there deals selling us down the river, not brexit.

 

[Goweresque]

We would be allowed to discriminate against hormone beef and the like I would have thought?

That I don't know. One would assume we could, as long as the same restrictions applied to UK production.

But the question then is, would we, even if we could? The whole point of allowing places like Brazil tariff free access to the UK food market is that it will be a bargaining chip in future trade talks. They won't allow us access to their services markets if we're putting restrictions on what food they can send here.

 

[tinsheet]

I get what your saying but i think joe public should trust us as the experts. I was harsh on the poster and cows , beef farming should include all types of breeds and methods

You've more faith in the General public than I do, don't think they'll ever see farmers as experts!

Hope/ love to be proved wrong!

 

[Henarar]

You've more faith in the General public than I do, don't think they'll ever see farmers as experts!

Hope/ love to be proved wrong!

Have you ever sperted an egg?

 

[tinsheet]

Have you ever sperted an egg?

2 kids here! .

 

[delilah]

Not the greatest advert for beef farming printing posters of some crappy old cows grazing a rough looking field/moor

Tonights tea courtesy of those crappy old cows, British White rib, melted in the mouth

 

[Wooly]

Tonights tea courtesy of those crappy old cows, British White rib, melted in the mouth

View attachment 765698

Over cooked and grizzly ........ not the greatest advert !?!

 

[delilah]

Over cooked and grizzly ........ not the greatest advert !?!

hardly overcooked, see the blood in the tray. I can only say that it tasted very good.