Apparently the south American's are ready to import the day after Brexit they can do beef at half our price and the catering trade especially don't give a feck where it comes from
Who told you that ...... a remainer ...
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Apparently the south American's are ready to import the day after Brexit they can do beef at half our price and the catering trade especially don't give a feck where it comes from
I agree.You could well be right. You're quite within your rights to state that. No need to comment on anyone's looks though (I speak as someone who always had a face made for radio)
when I suggested to him the government would screw us over he said what government LOLWho told you that ...... a remainer ...
I agree we certainly need something that's clear to consumers, realistic, honest (and therefore credible) affordable and well marketed that sets us apart from lower standard imports or products and practices banned in the UK
Red Tractor is way to far broken and lacks any credibility now though IMO, it achieves none of the above and the last people that should be involved in (owning) such thing should be the NFU - their job should be to independently hold such schemes accountable and make sure they serve the interest of farmers
I agree that the Red Tractor scheme should be divorced form the NFU, or at least the NFU should be in a position to represent farmers and hold them to account over unnecessary burden. I also think you’re right that RT need a rapid restructuring and need to serve the people that actually pay for their existence, personally I’d rather that than trying to start something else as I think RT has started, albeit a bit lame, to mean something to consumers. I suspect the top brass at RT haven’t the balls for a major shake up and only when the whole thing collapses will they wake up and by then it’ll be too late.
I still maintain the most important part that both the NFU and RT are missing is that without proper food labelling we are all fudged ( and our customers) in a race to the bottom. For example, a friend of mine went it his local Tesco and the large banner over the bacon aisle said that British bacon was on special offer. He couldn’t find any British bacon, only Danish. He asked for the manager to come and show him where the British bacon was that was on offer and, not surprisingly he couldn’t so my friend accused him of fraud at requested the banner was removed.
Unless we insist that it is illegal to label something as produced in Britain unless it is 100% then we haven’t a chance of promoting ourselves or our products and therefore the RT scheme is worthless.
I agree that the Red Tractor scheme should be divorced form the NFU, or at least the NFU should be in a position to represent farmers and hold them to account over unnecessary burden. I also think you’re right that RT need a rapid restructuring and need to serve the people that actually pay for their existence, personally I’d rather that than trying to start something else as I think RT has started, albeit a bit lame, to mean something to consumers. I suspect the top brass at RT haven’t the balls for a major shake up and only when the whole thing collapses will they wake up and by then it’ll be too late.
I still maintain the most important part that both the NFU and RT are missing is that without proper food labelling we are all fudged ( and our customers) in a race to the bottom. For example, a friend of mine went it his local Tesco and the large banner over the bacon aisle said that British bacon was on special offer. He couldn’t find any British bacon, only Danish. He asked for the manager to come and show him where the British bacon was that was on offer and, not surprisingly he couldn’t so my friend accused him of fraud at requested the banner was removed.
Unless we insist that it is illegal to label something as produced in Britain unless it is 100% then we haven’t a chance of promoting ourselves or our products and therefore the RT scheme is worthless.
I complained twice to Tesco about their British asparagus coming from Purro , on the third time I wripped down their banners and had the manager out. This was a few years ago, don't go near the place nowI agree that the Red Tractor scheme should be divorced form the NFU, or at least the NFU should be in a position to represent farmers and hold them to account over unnecessary burden. I also think you’re right that RT need a rapid restructuring and need to serve the people that actually pay for their existence, personally I’d rather that than trying to start something else as I think RT has started, albeit a bit lame, to mean something to consumers. I suspect the top brass at RT haven’t the balls for a major shake up and only when the whole thing collapses will they wake up and by then it’ll be too late.
I still maintain the most important part that both the NFU and RT are missing is that without proper food labelling we are all fudged ( and our customers) in a race to the bottom. For example, a friend of mine went it his local Tesco and the large banner over the bacon aisle said that British bacon was on special offer. He couldn’t find any British bacon, only Danish. He asked for the manager to come and show him where the British bacon was that was on offer and, not surprisingly he couldn’t so my friend accused him of fraud at requested the banner was removed.
Unless we insist that it is illegal to label something as produced in Britain unless it is 100% then we haven’t a chance of promoting ourselves or our products and therefore the RT scheme is worthless.
I complained twice to Tesco about their British asparagus coming from Purro , on the third time I wripped down their banners and had the manager our. This was a few years ago, don't go near the place now
I was younger then, I would now, expect it wouldn't take many visits to Tesco to get evidence. The asparagus was all neatly presented on Union Jack back ground with hanging signs for red tractor and British grown, you couldn't make it up. Manager said they had run out of British stock so provided an alternativeWould be better to document (photo etc) complain to the ASA (advertising standards agency) - they would have got a big fine and the publicity from that could be leveraged (cheaply via social media) to promote British ag and shane the supermarket
I agree - it’s such a mess right now though where on earth would anyone start !
Chances of NFU divorcing ownership ?
Chances of RT nanagment accepting its not working ? - effectively sacking themselves ?
I reckon it could be sorted out, would be one hell of a challenge though and radical reform to say the least !
If the South Americans get their beef here in numbers we're stuffed as a beef producing country. .Apparently the south American's are ready to import the day after Brexit they can do beef at half our price and the catering trade especially don't give a feck where it comes from
then rip the fecking banner down and get the manager outWould be better to document (photo etc) complain to the ASA (advertising standards agency) - they would have got a big fine and the publicity from that could be leveraged (cheaply via social media) to promote British ag and shane the supermarket
If the South Americans get their beef here in numbers we're stuffed as a beef producing country. .
yep if our government jump that way after brexit [whatever that is] its game over for all but a few specialist markets, been saying that since before the refIf the South Americans get their beef here in numbers we're stuffed as a beef producing country. .
for how long ? half a dayThey have been sending beef here for decades !
Look on the bright side...... no deal Brexit will hinder the Irish beef trade to Great Britain
In greater numbers than they are currently.They have been sending beef here for decades !
Look on the bright side...... no deal Brexit will hinder the Irish beef trade to Great Britain
I would imagine Guy would take one look at one poster's misogynistic comments about how Minette looks and have all the ammo he needs to drop a comment on here about how poor TFF is in representing the views of his constituency and move on.
That comment was an own goal and flies in the face of some excellent and thoughtful posts especially over food labelling and import monitors
We've had two reports on bob's comments but I'm surprised there's not been more on here voicing how unkind and unhelpful and irrelevant his comments about Minette's looks are. I have not deleted the comments as I thought peer pressure would prevail and I couldn't square any breach of TFF rules.
Not too late to ask for your own comments to be taken down Bob
I complained twice to Tesco about their British asparagus coming from Purro , on the third time I wripped down their banners and had the manager out. This was a few years ago, don't go near the place now