Red tractor stakeholder survey on governance

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Ha ha. Maybe it is but will it be enough coverage to stage a revolt of the required proportion?

it’s a bloody good starting point - reach is huge but i think if it come to what starts on social media soon makes the traditional press as well as we have seen a lot recently

and given events in europe recently i suspect the mainstream media would love such a story as well even

best they don’t test us and try to find out !
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I've already left ,it's a lot better over here
Would love to but, as I’ve been farming organic for over 20 years, that means accepting a double discount if I come out.
Could do it for sheep no bother- haven’t sold any lambs organic for years. Fat cattle are more problematic (abattoir wouldn’t accept them without RT). Same problem selling my organic oats.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
if they try to we need to resign on mass immediately
I think it’s been stalled for too long already. Rt should have been sunk when the gfc idea was made public.

momentum has been lost. I also honestly believe that many farmers actually like RT.
You can call that gas lighting or whatever you like but if farmers really disagreed with RT they would leave and problem solved without drawn out discussion.
 

Old apprentice

Member
Arable Farmer
Would love to but, as I’ve been farming organic for over 20 years, that means accepting a double discount if I come out.
Could do it for sheep no bother- haven’t sold any lambs organic for years. Fat cattle are more problematic (abattoir wouldn’t accept them without RT). Same problem selling my organic oats.
Sell your fat cattle through auction Marts . Iaa, say if every body sold three auctions the prices would be better super markets would have no option to by from auction marts.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I think it’s been stalled for too long already. Rt should have been sunk when the gfc idea was made public.

momentum has been lost. I also honestly believe that many farmers actually like RT.
You can call that gas lighting or whatever you like but if farmers really disagreed with RT they would leave and problem solved without drawn out discussion.

i think momentum is building. - when Tom is crowned next nfu leader and the various inquiries have been done /. GFC still attempts to be implemented THEN i reckon you have more than enough support
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
So I know we’re only the major stake holders in rt so will be the last to know but are there any snippets of how today has gone?

Did the good ship NFU sail complete with diving weights, rope and some unwilling passengers?

Was Minnette seen whistling a happy tune covered in soil with a shovel in hand?

Is Dim Jim still not home from work and not been seen for several hours?

Are camel tickle off on an apprentice style treat or are they in a cafe cradling cups of tea blaming each other?
 

jonnieboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
So I know we’re only the major stake holders in rt so will be the last to know but are there any snippets of how today has gone?

Did the good ship NFU sail complete with diving weights, rope and some unwilling passengers?

Was Minnette seen whistling a happy tune covered in soil with a shovel in hand?

Is Dim Jim still not home from work and not been seen for several hours?

Are camel tickle off on an apprentice style treat or are they in a cafe cradling cups of tea blaming each other?
What’s the betting it goes like this
All is good, RT is working as planned (by the supermarkets) nothing to see here move along
Isn’t Minette fabulous on her farewell tour
 

3650

Member
Location
South Devon
22 January 2024

Red Tractor Governance Review – Campbell Tickell update NFU Council on progress​

NFU Council today received an update from consultancy firm Campbell Tickell, on the review of Red Tractor Governance.
Since the end of November, Campbell Tickell has been undertaking a review which looks at the governance of Red Tractor. While the work is ongoing, NFU Council were updated on the review methodology, the interview process, including the theme of questions for those who were interviewed and included how they feel the Red Tractor governance currently operates across the various structures of Red Tractor, as well as carrying out surveys and reviews of current documents and procedures.
Work to date has identified there is much agreement that UK food assurance has a vital continuing role, while there are questions around how exactly the role of farm assurance should be defined in today’s more challenging environment. The review has also found that the processes and documentation in place are largely sound.
The consultants also indicated to NFU Council that they have been made very aware of the heated debate around the topic and had heard opposing accounts of the process that was followed from respondents.
In terms of the governance review, this in turn goes back to questions of trust, communication and understanding of how each part of the Red Tractor structure is intended to function, all of which require urgent attention. Council also heard from Campbell Tickell that the reviews into Red Tractor were a once in a generation opportunity to rebuild trust and relevance.
Recommendations from this review will be outlined in a final report by Campbell Tickell, which they confirmed is on track to be delivered later in February.
During this review, Campbell Tickell said it had gathered views that are highly relevant to the second review which it will pass on. Review 2, is an industry wide review, which will look at farm assurance as a whole.
Plans for Review 2 are being finalised, and more information will be published in the coming days.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Ah you seen the report then🤦‍♂️
https://www.nfuonline.com/updates-and-information/red-tractor-reviews/


Red Tractor Governance Review – Campbell Tickell update NFU Council on progress​

NFU Council today received an update from consultancy firm Campbell Tickell, on the review of Red Tractor Governance.
Since the end of November, Campbell Tickell has been undertaking a review which looks at the governance of Red Tractor. While the work is ongoing, NFU Council were updated on the review methodology, the interview process, including the theme of questions for those who were interviewed and included how they feel the Red Tractor governance currently operates across the various structures of Red Tractor, as well as carrying out surveys and reviews of current documents and procedures.
Work to date has identified there is much agreement that UK food assurance has a vital continuing role, while there are questions around how exactly the role of farm assurance should be defined in today’s more challenging environment. The review has also found that the processes and documentation in place are largely sound.
The consultants also indicated to NFU Council that they have been made very aware of the heated debate around the topic and had heard opposing accounts of the process that was followed from respondents.
In terms of the governance review, this in turn goes back to questions of trust, communication and understanding of how each part of the Red Tractor structure is intended to function, all of which require urgent attention. Council also heard from Campbell Tickell that the reviews into Red Tractor were a once in a generation opportunity to rebuild trust and relevance.
Recommendations from this review will be outlined in a final report by Campbell Tickell, which they confirmed is on track to be delivered later in February.
During this review, Campbell Tickell said it had gathered views that are highly relevant to the second review which it will pass on. Review 2, is an industry wide review, which will look at farm assurance as a whole.
Plans for Review 2 are being finalised, and more information will be published in the coming days.
 

Again they are missing the point of farmers' anger abaout all of this. The GFC is not mentioned. Its all about delay and obfuscate

NFU Statement:

Work to date has identified there is much agreement that UK food assurance has a vital continuing role,

and who did they canvass to be able to get to this conclusion?:

The remit of Campbell Tickell for this first review was only ever focused on those already directly involved in Red Tractor governance, such as Sector Boards, TACs (Technical Advisory Committees) and the Assured Food Standards Board.



As predicted it was a fix. Camel Tickler have collected their fees and done exactly what they ask. The eunuchs have gone back into line and all the have done is ask people to say if they think they are doing a decent job or not, whos gonna say no?

They have decided that assurance is "vital" which it demonstrably isn't because there is plenty of beef and lamb traded non assured and plenty of grain coming in non assured. So its not that it is a need but it is a want. That is fine but it must be paid for properly and its place in the marketplace cannot be dictated by one private company.

Hope @Abi Kay has a good headline "Whitewash is successfully whitewashed"
 
Location
Devon
22 January 2024

Red Tractor Governance Review – Campbell Tickell update NFU Council on progress​

NFU Council today received an update from consultancy firm Campbell Tickell, on the review of Red Tractor Governance.
Since the end of November, Campbell Tickell has been undertaking a review which looks at the governance of Red Tractor. While the work is ongoing, NFU Council were updated on the review methodology, the interview process, including the theme of questions for those who were interviewed and included how they feel the Red Tractor governance currently operates across the various structures of Red Tractor, as well as carrying out surveys and reviews of current documents and procedures.
Work to date has identified there is much agreement that UK food assurance has a vital continuing role, while there are questions around how exactly the role of farm assurance should be defined in today’s more challenging environment. The review has also found that the processes and documentation in place are largely sound.
The consultants also indicated to NFU Council that they have been made very aware of the heated debate around the topic and had heard opposing accounts of the process that was followed from respondents.
In terms of the governance review, this in turn goes back to questions of trust, communication and understanding of how each part of the Red Tractor structure is intended to function, all of which require urgent attention. Council also heard from Campbell Tickell that the reviews into Red Tractor were a once in a generation opportunity to rebuild trust and relevance.
Recommendations from this review will be outlined in a final report by Campbell Tickell, which they confirmed is on track to be delivered later in February.
During this review, Campbell Tickell said it had gathered views that are highly relevant to the second review which it will pass on. Review 2, is an industry wide review, which will look at farm assurance as a whole.
Plans for Review 2 are being finalised, and more information will be published in the coming days.
Well Minette Batters has quite clearly stated more than once that the 2nd review into RT and farm assurance is for NFU members only

Has that now changed or still the case?
 

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