Selectamatic's Farming Thread.

[Flat 10]

Spray it cheap as chips. Obviously will be more in a 5lit can rather than 1000 lit IBC but will only cost a few quid an acre. And if you plan on giving it any more N do it sooner rather than later. Wish all mine looked that good btw....

 

[Selectamatic]

Spray it cheap as chips. Obviously will be more in a 5lit can rather than 1000 lit IBC but will only cost a few quid an acre. And if you plan on giving it any more N do it sooner rather than later. Wish all mine looked that good btw....

Thank you.

My theory was to spray the barley with a general weedkiller, something that will stop stingers, thistles, volunteer spuds, but more importantly chickweed.

If I were to spray it next week, could I mix something to get rid of the weeds, with the manganese, and possibly some N?

My two things to ponder are...

1) Have all the weeds come through now, so will I get them all in one hit?

2) Does it need any more N? While I'd like a good crop from it, I'd rather take less than it grow like stink and go flat should the weather become nasty...

 

[Flat 10]

Thank you.

My theory was to spray the barley with a general weedkiller, something that will stop stingers, thistles, volunteer spuds, but more importantly chickweed.

If I were to spray it next week, could I mix something to get rid of the weeds, with the manganese, and possibly some N?

My two things to ponder are...

1) Have all the weeds come through now, so will I get them all in one hit?

2) Does it need any more N? While I'd like a good crop from it, I'd rather take less than it grow like stink and go flat should the weather become nasty...

yes mix them unless you use cheap mang with hormones. I reckon 2cwt acre is about right for a low input crop with l guess a fairly fertile site. How much N has it had?

 

[Selectamatic]

yes mix them unless you use cheap mang with hormones. I reckon 2cwt acre is about right for a low input crop with l guess a fairly fertile site. How much N has it had?

About 80kg to the acre of 20-10-10 down the drill spout...

 

[Flat 10]

About 80kg to the acre of 20-10-10 down the drill spout...

Needs about another cwt of straight N ideally.

 

[Selectamatic]

Needs about another cwt of straight N ideally.

Will it? Crikey!

 

[Flat 10]

Will it? Crikey!

Was it mucked? After grass? Anyway I'm 200 miles away and just looking at your pictures, you do what you like!

 

[Selectamatic]

Was it mucked? After grass? Anyway I'm 200 miles away and just looking at your pictures, you do what you like!

No muck, but swedes were grazed on a chunk of it.

Thanks for your help, Much appreciated!

 

[Flat 10]

No muck, but swedes were grazed on a chunk of it.

Thanks for your help, Much appreciated!

No problem. Another cwt (50kgs) l think would be good. Re manganese it will probably grow out of it but applying some will make it a nice colour. Welcome to the expensive world of arable farming

 

[Breakthru]

No muck, but swedes were grazed on a chunk of it.

Thanks for your help, Much appreciated!

Careful on the swede grazed bit, if it rains and warms up you will get a late rush off N so while not wanting to growth reg due to drought you may get caught out by it going flat later.

 

[multi power]

If I was putting any fertiliser on I would go for a bag an acre of 20 10 10

 

[Goggles]

I'm new to your thread @Selectamatic and I've enjoyed seeing your progress. It's a real inspiration. Your barley looks well this year.
If I could add my two penny worth, if you're worried about capping maybe you could drag a light set of harrows behind the drill? I would also advocate rolling after drilling, but never underestimate local knowledge. You and your Dad know the area and soil type better than anyone on here. Experience is worth a lot. Good luck with your tatties and I hope you get some decent rain, we all need some!

 

[DeeGee]

Emyr, my spring barley nearly always needs manganese as a routine, generally put about 500ml/hectare if I remember correctly. We usually add it to a spray mix as a routine but sometimes you may need to go on with just Mn if the crop is suffering and no other sprays are yet needed.

To be fair yours looks good and very even. If you reckon it's improving then just add Mn to the tank mix when you decide to spray for weeds. I too would guess that you may need to put on some more nitrogen if the crop looks like it needs it after we have had some rain (which we all need and will make a big difference to everything whenever we may get some!) 80kg an acre is not a lot for spring barley, but without knowing the field it is difficult to recommend for someone else's land.

 

[Selectamatic]

Gentlemen, thank you for your thoughts, comments, and ideas.

My plan is to give it a dose of Mn along with some weedkiller to clear up general crap, but especially chickweed, but I will leave it a while until the weather is threatening to break.

Im thinking of giving it a little N also, ideally doing it as a single job, through the sprayer, having never sprayed fert before, only broadcast, can someone give me a crash course as to what the do's and dont's are please?

 

[AndrewM]

I wouldn't spray nitrogen on the crop using the nozzles that you will using for herbicide. You are likely to scorch your crop. I would do the nitrogen as a separate job unfortunately. People using liquid nitogen use specialist nozzles or dribble bars

 

[Selectamatic]

That's cured that idea then!

 

[Selectamatic]

@Gator

 

[Selectamatic]

Hung my gates this morning, looks tidy enough, very pleased.

I have to concrete in a stopper in the ground to hold the smaller one, but that will be done after the shed is on it's feet.

The grass beyond the gate is coming on very well too, weather permitting that will be a crop of hay this year. There's a lot of dandelions, docks, thistles etc in it, my plan is, this year to plough it and put a crop of winter barley in.

 

[DeeGee]

Definitely you would need to put any nitrogen on as bag fertiliser not spray with your sprayer.
What size are those gates Emyr? Look like a 12' and a 5', and seems a good idea to give a wide entry without too heavy a gate on one post.

 

[Selectamatic]

Definitely you would need to put any nitrogen on as bag fertiliser not spray with your sprayer.
What size are those gates Emyr? Look like a 12' and a 5', and seems a good idea to give a wide entry without too heavy a gate on one post.

They are a 10' and a 6', I did think of a 12, but thought it would look too big compared to what there was previously.