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Fragonard

Member
We never had vario/cvt transmission.
So please tell me all the advantages?
Are they hard to get used to?
Looking at a used NH.
Thanks.
 

Fendtbro

Member
On a fendt box, going into reverse is a non wearing procedure. Even at full power. Same as altering travel speed. Unlike wet/ dry clutches the vario should be able to perform unlimited direction changes with no additional wear/heat buildup. Great for mowing/ round baling. Not good for uphill hard haulage, turns itself into a hydrostatic tractor (99%) at really low forwards speed in high ratio on really steep bits. It can even stop moving completely in high box if steep enough. Now if only it could powershift into low on the move.. then you’d not have to stop like a dummy before the hill with cars behind you... Opps cnh does that!
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
The NH vario whines worse than your ex wife
Think your mixing it up with new Holland electroshift? I drive 1 all the time and don't find it any noisier than non vario tractors we have.

I drive a new Holland vario all the time and wouldn't buy a non vario tractor now. I would be 95% field work though. Don't really do any haulage with it.

I just like the level of control and ability to adjust speed smoothly from the stick control.

Downsides would be. I've had it run away with me when spreading fertiliser on wet greasy grass. When you touch brakes it disengages transmission.

Other thing is when you lose grip ploughing and forward speed reduces. It decides to give it more juice and spin wheels faster. Which if you don't catch it in time can result in it digging a big hole.

I haven't drive a Deere for a while but from memory I would say there vario was smoother.
 
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Mark C

Member
Location
Bedfordshire
From an ease of use point of view, the JD Autopwr (non command pro stick) is the simplest to jump on and drive. (my 70 odd year old dad loves it and he's no fan of machinery whasoever!) FOr road work, just puch the stick right forward and drive it on the foot throttle like and automatic car. Field work, set your revs and use the stick to set your foeard speed. There's a little knob on the sticj to fine tune the speed you want to go. That is pretty much it in a nutshell.
 

Muddyroads

Member
Location
Devon
As said above, demo one or two, but prepare to give it a little time to get used to it. For my money, once you’ve had one you won’t want to go back. It will depend on what your doing with it, but I’m sure there will be less wear, particularly for loader work. In some work it’s more fuel efficient, but not all
 

Half Pipe

Member
Think your mixing it up with new Holland electroshift? I drive 1 all the time and don't find it any noisier than non vario tractors we have.

I drive a new Holland vario all the time and wouldn't buy a non vario tractor now. I would be 95% field work though. Don't really do any haulage with it.

I just like the level of control and ability to adjust speed smoothly from the stick control.

Downsides would be. I've had it run away with me when spreading fertiliser on wet greasy grass. When you touch brakes it disengages transmission.

Other thing is when you lose grip ploughing and forward speed reduces. It decides to give it more juice and spin wheels faster. Which if you don't catch it in time can result in it digging a big hole.

I haven't drive a Deere for a while but from memory I would say there vario was smoother.
If you hold the forward button on the controller while braking on bits like that, it locks transmission, stops transmission disconnect and if on haulage going downhill, it stops transmission braking to much and causing engine revs to spike
 

Durt Burd

Member
Location
SE Ireland
We never had vario/cvt transmission.
So please tell me all the advantages?
Are they hard to get used to?
Looking at a used NH.
Thanks.
Short or long wheelbase? Apart from the operator comfort and improved base spec there is no 50km/hr bearing. that needs looking after The short wheelbase tractors also have a better braking system (two instead of one lot of discs).
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
I don’t have a tractor with a conventional gearbox even the Kubota on the scraper is hydrostatic.
Have Jd and Fendt varios, even my non tractor driving brother likes the vario on the diet feeder. It’s the precise speed control for him.
For other work it’s just easier to do exactly what you want. For fertiliser I can go from a 14kph in tramlines to bumpy water meadows at 8 kph by doing nothing more than pulling the stick back, pto speed stays at 540. For both fert and spraying on the I am around 1600 revs most of the time. I have a fair bit of steep ground when I had a normal gearbox there was lots of range changing to get up and then go faster down hill. Now I set cruise the tractor sits at 1850 going up and sorts itself and is probably 1200 revs going down.

Have a proper week long demo, go ploughing get shown how to drive it and play with things and ask questions, what do you need the tractor to do?

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