Sheep possibly exposed to scab.

[hoff135]

Neighbour unfortunately has got scab, a good chance some of mine have come into contact.

Looking at giving them cydectin 2%, just wondering how high a risk there is if causing worm resistance with a one off treatment?

Have used foot vax in the past so 1% is out

Would struggle to find clean ground for 3 weeks so not sure dectomax is an alternative and prefer not to have to dip just now.

Any input on the cydectin?

Tia

 

[unlacedgecko]

Neighbour unfortunately has got scab, a good chance some of mine have come into contact.

Looking at giving them cydectin 2%, just wondering how high a risk there is if causing worm resistance with a one off treatment?

Have used foot vax in the past so 1% is out

Would struggle to find clean ground for 3 weeks so not sure dectomax is an alternative and prefer not to have to dip just now.

Any input on the cydectin?

Tia

Just f**king dip them

 

[Jerry]

Too much resistance to cydectin.

By the time you realise that it’s far cheaper to dip, and a far shorter withdrawal period.

I’ve got the t shirt…….

 

[Bwcho]

Dip.

 

[B Nichols]

We dipped some ewes yesterday for a lady, who had injected them three times, massive resistance to injectables now, just dip them

 

[Bwcho]

Dip.

Without delay.

 

[B Nichols]

I don’t think the merchants should even be selling the injectables for scab, it’s dishonest, I lot of people believe the person behind the counter that the product will work, and it clearly doesn’t

 

[Mc115reed]

Injectables are waste of time… did mine all last year were itching like f**k just the same as if they’d never been injected… followed vets instructions of moving them too clean pasture 12hours after injecting them re-injecting 14 days later and did sweet FA dipped them all and never seen anything itch again after the next day

 

[z.man]

Cydectin administered correctly will work here, dectomax needs a double jag and even then I would be doubtful, dipping is the best solution but also has to be done correctly, and a dip will cover lice as well

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Neighbour unfortunately has got scab, a good chance some of mine have come into contact.

Looking at giving them cydectin 2%, just wondering how high a risk there is if causing worm resistance with a one off treatment?

Have used foot vax in the past so 1% is out

Would struggle to find clean ground for 3 weeks so not sure dectomax is an alternative and prefer not to have to dip just now.

Any input on the cydectin?

Tia

Before you rush out and spend a fortune on a product that doesn't work or go dipping unnecessarily just check that yours do have Scab first.

If you get the Vet to blood test a random sample of sheep that you believe may have come into contact and it was at least 10 days ago then the test is very accurate. It was actually made in Scotland by Moredun!

 

[Pistonbroke]

Contractor with lowering cage type would be less stressful on ewes at this time of year. Heavy in lamb and full wool it's a lot of effort getting up the ramp out of a tub.

 

[hoff135]

Before you rush out and spend a fortune on a product that doesn't work or go dipping unnecessarily just check that yours do have Scab first.

If you get the Vet to blood test a random sample of sheep that you believe may have come into contact and it was at least 10 days ago then the test is very accurate. It was actually made in Scotland by Moredun!

Vet has actually suggested waiting to see if they start developing something. Do you know how long they need to be exposed for before the test works?

 

[Pistonbroke]

Vet has actually suggested waiting to see if they start developing something. Do you know how long they need to be exposed for before the test works?

Didn't the vet say?

 

[hoff135]

Didn't the vet say?

Was dad that actually spoke to him bu lt I don't think testing was mentioned

 

[Al R]

Cydectin administered correctly will work here, dectomax needs a double jag and even then I would be doubtful, dipping is the best solution but also has to be done correctly, and a dip will cover lice as well

Whether cydectin works or not isn’t farm specific it’s mite specific. It depends if the mite that you have at that particular time has mutated to be the new Moxidectin resistant strain. My dad can’t get his head around this and thinks that injecting is the only cure (we havnt had scab off neighbours for a few years mind) he does suffer hellish bad when around OP’s though

You might buy 2 groups of animals from the mart (different holdings) and the injections might work on one, both or neither depending on the actual mite that is present on them.

I’ve always been told dectomax at 1.5-2x the dose that the label says on both occasions.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Whether cydectin works or not isn’t farm specific it’s mite specific. It depends if the mite that you have at that particular time has mutated to be the new Moxidectin resistant strain. My dad can’t get his head around this and thinks that injecting is the only cure (we havnt had scab off neighbours for a few years mind) he does suffer hellish bad when around OP’s though

You might buy 2 groups of animals from the mart (different holdings) and the injections might work on one, both or neither depending on the actual mite that is present on them.

I’ve always been told dectomax at 1.5-2x the dose that the label says on both occasions.

Our vet was saying a few years ago there was a flock dispersal in Hereford market from Oxfordshire. All sheep looked fine and healthy and loads of people bought a pen or two. A few weeks later they started itching and after lab testing dectomax was the only thing that would stop it. I think they did them twice,a few days apart and big doses to hit it hard.

 

[MRT]

Cydectin administered correctly will work here, dectomax needs a double jag and even then I would be doubtful, dipping is the best solution but also has to be done correctly, and a dip will cover lice as well

I'd say Ivermectin/Doramectin you are wasting your time. Cydectin you are hoping from experience around here. I can't advise anything other than dip

 

[Pistonbroke]

I'd say Ivermectin/Doramectin you are wasting your time. Cydectin you are hoping from experience around here. I can't advise anything other than dip

One local dipping contractor here advises to give dipping a miss every few years in case there's resistance to the dip, seeing as it's the only one available. Don't know if that's his opinion or if there's some evidence behind it

 

[neilo]

Was dad that actually spoke to him bu lt I don't think testing was mentioned

It’s quite a new diagnostic test iirc. My vet was very enthusiastic about it last year, I suspect having just read about it.

Dipping or jagging is going to £1/sheep or so, so certainly worth testing to confirm first imo.

 

[neilo]

Contractor with lowering cage type would be less stressful on ewes at this time of year. Heavy in lamb and full wool it's a lot of effort getting up the ramp out of a tub.

I’ve wondered what it might cost to make a cage dipper in the yard somewhere using an old forklift mast to dunk a cage in and out of a concrete tank. A draining pen on one side and mobile race on the other.