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- Near Colchester
I use soya or fish oil - or a mix as we have an ibc of the stuff about for pig rations, applied with broom head.
shuttered walls
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RWG Contracts
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- Samlesbury, Lancashire
massey 6480
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- Eire Field down the road
Wall hasn't turned too bad .
YELROM
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- North Yorkshire
Did you not have any bolts tying the shutters together
massey 6480
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- Eire Field down the road
No bolts used with that type of shutter . Use a snap tie key and wedge to hold it all together .
RWG Contracts
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- Samlesbury, Lancashire
Set up shutters yesterday, poured this morning at 9am took shutters down at 1 and floated up 
well chuffed with the job
Floor poured at 4pm
well chuffed with the jobFloor poured at 4pm
Looking well. Did a fair bit with those old RMD pans in my time. Hard to find with good ply now. Did a 12 ft wide X 63 ft long and 7 ft deep slatted tank myself in 2003. Just done a 16 ft wide X 8 ft deep X 70 ft slatted tank , but got contractor to do it. I am older wiser and less help about now.
Here is one of the two gable walls. 20 ft long 6 ft high and 9 inch thick. Poured today. Homemade pans owned by a friend.
massey 6480
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- Eire Field down the road
Are them panel`s made completely of timber .
Used similar looking ones that were all steel made from 70mm angle
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They are 16 ft long , 6 ft high. 2 8x 4 ft sheets of ply length ways , and another sheet split in half lengthways on top. 4 x 3 timbers at the back then. There are a pair of 8 ft long pans at the left hand side of picture. He has 4 of the 16 ft ones , and 2 of 8 ft long ones , so can do 40 ft of a wall in one pour , but has to borrow a few whirlybird bolts to use them all together. They got into something like €2300 , for bolts , labour , as he got a local tradesman to put them together for him. That local man has another pair made the exact same. The whirlybird bolts are a shocking price , but essential.
They were all copied off a steel pair that another local man made about 15 years ago. Same size. He used 3 mm sheeting , backed with 3 x 10 mm at the edges , and 3 x 1 1/2 box across them. The steel ones only use 2 lots of bolts , whereas there are 3 lots in the timber ones. Use 1" water pipe around bolts. Use to use 3/4 , but 2 hard get bolts in or out. The lad made the steel ones , used threaded bar the first time he put them up , and it bursted. Whether it would have held , if he had 3 rows of them in the height . I dont know. He only has what will pour a 16 ft wall. I
I bought a pan mixer in 08 , and using his steel pans did about 15 spans of walls. Put up and fill today , repeat tomorrow. Fill with backactor on MF 50 , and load into shutter with the front bucket.
Handy to be able to do small bits like that , and can work by myself ,
But readymix works out as cheap or damn near it.
I gave €320 I think for 23 ton load of gravel , and €200 a ton for cement.
I think readymix is around €70 a m. Plant only 3 miles away.
They were all copied off a steel pair that another local man made about 15 years ago. Same size. He used 3 mm sheeting , backed with 3 x 10 mm at the edges , and 3 x 1 1/2 box across them. The steel ones only use 2 lots of bolts , whereas there are 3 lots in the timber ones. Use 1" water pipe around bolts. Use to use 3/4 , but 2 hard get bolts in or out. The lad made the steel ones , used threaded bar the first time he put them up , and it bursted. Whether it would have held , if he had 3 rows of them in the height . I dont know. He only has what will pour a 16 ft wall. I
I bought a pan mixer in 08 , and using his steel pans did about 15 spans of walls. Put up and fill today , repeat tomorrow. Fill with backactor on MF 50 , and load into shutter with the front bucket.
Handy to be able to do small bits like that , and can work by myself ,
But readymix works out as cheap or damn near it.
I gave €320 I think for 23 ton load of gravel , and €200 a ton for cement.
I think readymix is around €70 a m. Plant only 3 miles away.
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Sorry , I couldn't say. I reckon, very very roughly , that you would want the most of the load of gravel , and the 2 tons of cement for an 8 or 9 cu m load of readymix.
Quizzing the driver yesterday , he told me that in an 8 m load the day before, he put 2380 kg of cement , but it was using 10mm chip. Depending on the dampness of the sand , 100 litres of water to the m.
Around 300kg cement in a m3 35n
dannewhouse
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- huddersfield
your sand gravel cement and water roughly add up to 2.5 ton per cube there are mix designs online for guidelines.
I would expect your "ingredients" to add up to roughly the price of ready-mix!
I would expect your "ingredients" to add up to roughly the price of ready-mix!
Or more than the price of readymix.
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robin banks
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Google says one meter concrete weights 2.41 ton. So 300kg of cement @€200 ton is 60 then 100 kg of water leaves 2ton of stone @13.90 is 27.80. So it's costing €87.80 per cubic meter. But then that includes vat. Whereas he quotes 70 for readymix would be plus vat. Had pan mixer and sold it as it don't pay. Try to do jobs of at least 5m3 as that is min delivery with no small load charge around here
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- Near Colchester
Cement is £3.10 per bag here if you buy enough i.e. £124 per tonne
£37.2 per 300kg + ballast at £34 per 2 tonnes = £71.20 per cube.
Was quoted £93 and £90 per cube for Rc 40 this week for 7.5 m loads in multiples.
£37.2 per 300kg + ballast at £34 per 2 tonnes = £71.20 per cube.
Was quoted £93 and £90 per cube for Rc 40 this week for 7.5 m loads in multiples.
dannewhouse
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- huddersfield
rc40 had 4 cube on last job £80 per cube readymix