SimTech Aitchison Drills

[Lawless]

Sorry @Lawless, I don't have a single stone on the farm so can't comment. Conventional thinking is that disc drills are better for stones because they push them down rather than hooking them out. Apparently, if you no-till for enough years, the worms keep bringing soil to the surface until all the stones have gone.

Makes sense.
Many thanks.

 

[damaged]

The tine has been known to flick stones through back windows of tractor. I don't really see it as a problem as a mesh guard would be an easy fit.
Only applies to 30mm tine not 25. Same problem on multi grip tine of Sprinter compared to old CO.
Not from first hand experience but much enquiring

 

[Simon Chiles]

I have a customer I used to drill for, so many stones it sounded like a machine gun going off if you opened the back window. He tried dd ( only ever planted grass ) with a Simba Freeflow but was constantly taking out back windrows so soon switched to a Moore Unidrill.

 

[Simon Chiles]

Sorry @Lawless, I don't have a single stone on the farm so can't comment.

I knew you'd say that!
Since when did you go with conventional thinking?

 

[damaged]

Having drilled cotswold brash with a Moore, I'm now looking for a way to stop it shaking to pieces and keep bolts tight .

 

[Will Blackburn]

Sorry @Lawless, I don't have a single stone on the farm so can't comment. Conventional thinking is that disc drills are better for stones because they push them down rather than hooking them out. Apparently, if you no-till for enough years, the worms keep bringing soil to the surface until all the stones have gone.

Tis true, after about 10 years, I guess worm dependant?

 

[Dan Powell]

My simtech pulls big stones up occasionally. The roller won't put them down again so you have to pick them up. This is a problem in some fields, so I try to use a disc wherever possible. I'm reluctant to get rid of the tine drill though in case we have another 2012...

 

[Dan Powell]

In its defense I think it's a better drill for OSR and cover crop establishment that my Kuhn due to more N mineralisation.

 

[will l]

winter peas sown 23rd november Right hand side drilled with aitchison left ploughed and combi drilled the aitchison walks a lot better!

 

[damaged]

Left hand is Simtech. Right hand Moore uni.
late drilling wheat into red clover.

 

[Coldbrook]

Could you use these drills to put red clover into grass ley?

 

[DavidJB95]

How does the drill compare to a weaving sabre tine or horsch co drill?

 

[pear]

View attachment 279560 Left hand is Simtech. Right hand Moore uni.
late drilling wheat into red clover.

@damaged
How late was that drilled with the simtech?

 

[damaged]

@pear Picture taken on 19thNovember
drilled late October, around 21st I think.
Way way too late but waited for the Simtec demo to come

 

[damaged]

@Coldbrook I would use a depth controlled drill for small seed - in my case a Moore tandem uni. Or use a grass Harrow seeder but I feel from my limited use of tine drill, it can't really run that shallow. I'm sure others with more experience can offer better advice.

 

[pear]

@pear Picture taken on 19thNovember
drilled late October, around 21st I think.
Way way too late but waited for the Simtec demo to come

Drilled some wheat around the same date, emerged ok but has pretty much vanished since over the winter. Definitely way too late to drill on my ground but first year with the drill and I've at least learnt something-dont drill mid October onwards!!

 

[SBFarming]

@pear some early N & I'm sure it'll be fine

 

[Bury the Trash]

Doesn't @Dan Powell have one as well? And @le bon paysan has had a Grassfarmer model for a couple of years.

I have one, but have only used it for forage brassicas and grass seeds so far (not cereals). Well built, simple drill that works well as far as I'm concerned and the backup from George is very good.

@neilo - Is yours 150 mm row width (20)-? and is that not a bit wide for grass seeding?

 

[le bon paysan]

@neilo - Is yours 150 mm row width (20)-? and is that not a bit wide for grass seeding?

I drill every thing with a Grassfarmer but I would agree 15cms is too wide wide for 'long term' leys. I'm only planting westwolds with clover and cereals now.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I drill every thing with a Grassfarmer but I would agree 15cms is too wide wide for 'long term' leys. I'm only planting westwolds with clover and cereals now.

Thanks,I thought it would be a bit wide,
Anyway,For the money spent i would want it to be as versatile as possible would the T sem be more usefull (ie better for cereals) lot more money though i suppose/different animal?)
would half rate cross drilling would solve the grass seed row width prob...?