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pgk

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I think Boris is trying to ensure that a few High Court Judges and one or two MPs in Parliament (Dominic Grieve for eg) can't attempt blatantly to overturn the majority will of the British People.

Our elected MPs must surely be the final arbiters - but only so-long as all MPs are free to vote as they wish.
Think your understanding of the law is somewhat flawed. Parliament introduces the laws and the judiciary rule upon what the law means when two parties disagree. What is being proposed is that when a new government is appointed and existing law does not suit their agenda they do not wish to go through Parliament and the Lords being the process nedessary to introduce a new law. Instead they just want free reign to over-rule any judgement which does not fit their agenda. In simple terms a dictatorship.
 

pgk

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The Post Office scam is just the tip of the iceberg and a reflection on just how bad our Judges are at putting innocent people behind bars and ruining lives. It took over 10 years before the truth finally started to be extracted.
The judges ruled on the evidence which from the experts PO and Fujitsu that the system had no flaws. It took a number of years and the work of many independent experts to show PO and Fujitsu had lied to the court. Once that was shown to be the case the convictions were quashed by the judges.
 

pgk

Member
Well I'm off to bath to smash up the roman baths because they were horrid to my ancestors. Having read the article I note it is claimed it is easy for a judge to direct a jury on criminal damage, well seeing as the four admitted they were involved either the judge was a fool or the prosecutor was very poor. When the mob arrive at your door saying they dont like your methods of production or claim your land "belongs" to the masses because it was stolen by some ancient noble or king dont expect much h help from the law if this is the future.
Look up the secret barrister, he has set out for the layman an explanation of the law concerning the case of the colston 4, their defence arguments the judge ruled to be legal and the various reasons why it is possible to avoid a conviction. For saddo's like myself it is something of an eye opener🤣
 

robs1

Member
Look up the secret barrister, he has set out for the layman an explanation of the law concerning the case of the colston 4, their defence arguments the judge ruled to be legal and the various reasons why it is possible to avoid a conviction. For saddo's like myself it is something of an eye opener🤣
The defence can argue what they like but the simple fact is they admitted they were involved .
 

Ashtree

Member
Of course there is another argument to be made here, in defence of the court and in defence of the defendants in this case.
The din and noise in the TFF echo chamber, created by the usual cohort of nodding donkeys who invariably, in choreographed unison, nod along without the merest hint of alternative view being allowed to rear it’s head.
 

pgk

Member
Of course there is another argument to be made here, in defence of the court and in defence of the defendants in this case.
The din and noise in the TFF echo chamber, created by the usual cohort of nodding donkeys who invariably, in choreographed unison, nod along without the merest hint of alternative view being allowed to rear it’s head.
This is seen with the current Attorney General whose knee jerk reaction to appease the Torygraph Daily fail readers is somewhat worrying. One Hope's with her lack of experience of criminal law she will revert to wiser counsel before doing anything foolish.
 

Ashtree

Member
This is seen with the current Attorney General whose knee jerk reaction to appease the Torygraph Daily fail readers is somewhat worrying. One Hope's with her lack of experience of criminal law she will revert to wiser counsel before doing anything foolish.
Remember the din and clamour in the Torygraph and a multitude of the British thrash press, at the time of the high court judges and House of Lords ruling against various elements of the outcome of Brexit. Wow, it was like nothing you would see in normal democratic countries or societies. The back slapping and yeehawing here on TFF, was a crystal clear window into the mindset of the nodding donkey club.
There is but a thin veneer of respectability, pulled over that Oswald Mosley, Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage, fascist tendencies in society.
 
Of course there is another argument to be made here, in defence of the court and in defence of the defendants in this case.
The din and noise in the TFF echo chamber, created by the usual cohort of nodding donkeys who invariably, in choreographed unison, nod along without the merest hint of alternative view being allowed to rear it’s head.

I don't know what you are about mate but I think the concern here amongst the TFF audience is that we would like to see the rule of law upheld and people committing criminal acts to be judged appropriately.
 

pgk

Member
I don't know what you are about mate but I think the concern here amongst the TFF audience is that we would like to see the rule of law upheld and people committing criminal acts to be judged appropriately.
Which according to those in the legal profession they were, the issue appears to be that those complaining are either uninformed as to the law or mischief making.
 

pgk

Member
Remember the din and clamour in the Torygraph and a multitude of the British thrash press, at the time of the high court judges and House of Lords ruling against various elements of the outcome of Brexit. Wow, it was like nothing you would see in normal democratic countries or societies. The back slapping and yeehawing here on TFF, was a crystal clear window into the mindset of the nodding donkey club.
There is but a thin veneer of respectability, pulled over that Oswald Mosley, Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage, fascist tendencies in society.
It is sad thing to see that many of those who claim to stand for democracy follow the line given by partisan papers and politicians without ever testing whether what they are being told is actually true. The criticism of the judiciary, by many ministers and MP's, when the judges gave rulings as to how the law works which was contra to the wishes of those who represent us, was what one sees in a totalitarian state or banana republic.
 

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