yesIn the drill. So it's either down the spout, or chucked on top ?
yesIn the drill. So it's either down the spout, or chucked on top ?
We used to Massey drill fert down spout. Then we got a seed only power harrow one pass .For a fair trial I would spin some ontop with fert spreader ontop of ploughing. Then do other bit of field through drill.
Would show benefits of putting it close to seed.
On my drill seed and fert goes down seperate pipes. Some say this isn't as good. Others say it roots better as roots have to travel to find nutrients.
I don't know.
I’ve got a drill which will drill seed & fert. Should I drill all the fert In one go it’s what I want to do. They are metered separately but do go in the same place slot. Disc drill any thoughts. Probably going 120kg/n/ha solid fert either 34.5 or 24/8/8/8
Same here, we apply about 50-60kgN/ha as a compound... thought 120 would be aI don't know anyone putting it all on in one hit. Advantages to me is giving it some P and N close to seed to aid establishment. Plus it reduces the amount of N you have to put on top dressing.
yes but at what point do you get burn?Quantity is the problem in the slot as it increases the relative salt index in the proximity of germinating seeds to the point where it burns the plant tissue.
in the drill? that must make it an incredibly slow job!Have heard of burn in osr. Never in any other crops.
Some heroes are putting on over 400kg/ha
Back in the day? Still using one now, seed only.Back in the day !! ( 70's ) when we were all using Massey 30 drills, common practice was 3cwt of 20 10 10 per acre down the spout. The seed went down the same spout and into the drill made by the disc. Never had any problems. Hope that helps ? ( Spring barley )
Yes! I'm not fit to blow that much back at any speed. I've seed and fert on front. You can see it building up in pipes. Then bit at end where you lift goes flat as it clears itself.in the drill? that must make it an incredibly slow job!
Thats bold! You can get a higher concentration of liquid N? We've often thought about higher N for liquid and then spin on some poly sulphate.We are moving to using a urea sulphur compound for everything now 38-0-0-19. Thinking of spinning half on a week before drilling and half down the spout total 100kgs N. This is if we drill mid march. If it was in February like we did a couple years ago I would spin the reminder on after. Thoughts?
The sulphur is too expensive if you want higher concentrations. Polysulphate is okay but I wanted to go to using urea for agronomic reasons so it made sense.Thats bold! You can get a higher concentration of liquid N? We've often thought about higher N for liquid and then spin on some poly sulphate.
It’s a compound of UAS so should be safe. Shame the company I bought it from also demonise it! I’m not worried about accuracy these spreaders have come a long way. And no more scorch which I refuse to believe doesn’t have an affect. This stuff needs dealing with differently management wise to liquid though.You might not have long to practice this if they ban solid urea ferts. Accuracy would be my other concern but modern spreaders are significantly better I suppose.
With these drier springs I really think we could be moving to 100% N applications at planting and/or reductions etc!
Can’t go far wrong at 1.75cwt/acre?What sort of seed rate are folks using for Sassy for malting? First year growing it here.
That would work out at 400 seeds. Last year we had Diablo at 390 and Laureate at 450. Suspect Sassy will tiller similarly to Laureate.Can’t go far wrong at 1.75cwt/acre?
Would depend more on the TGW and the germination % of the seed more than the variety I think?
Sassy should usually be around 400 seeds, assuming germ in the mid 90's. 20 seeds less if conditions are fab, 20 more if they're poor.That would work out at 400 seeds. Last year we had Diablo at 390 and Laureate at 450. Suspect Sassy will tiller similarly to Laureate.
So you're saying that regardless of time of sowing, ground condition, variety, tgw or germ, everything should be sown at 200kg/ha?200kg/ha same as everything else!
Yes.Sassy should usually be around 400 seeds, assuming germ in the mid 90's. 20 seeds less if conditions are fab, 20 more if they're poor.
So you're saying that regardless of time of sowing, ground condition, variety, tgw or germ, everything should be sown at 200kg/ha?
Yes.
I know I'm a sh!te farmer.