Stores or finish? Friesian steers

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Had 10 away on Friday. Similar grades and starting at £3.55 for a r grade

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Far far to light to be sending them

 

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Does st merryn not pay as well for friesians?

No by a LONG mile

 

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£40/head haulage?! The price paid per kg looks as good as anywhere but you have big deductions wherever in Africa you send them to [emoji848]

That is about right from down here if your hauling them 260/320 miles to be killed.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Far far to light to be sending them

Surly it's a job to get the weight on if you haven't got the frame to carry it. Wouldn't British friesians be smaller than a Holstein friesian probably get more weight on hf but not grade as well.

 

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Surly it's a job to get the weight on if you haven't got the frame to carry it. Wouldn't British friesians be smaller than a Holstein friesian probably get more weight on hf but not grade as well.

Easy to get BF to 650 liveweight.

Only Fri cattle that don't get pass 560 kilos is the ones out of NZ type mongrel cows.

 

[Sid]

Easy to get BF to 650 liveweight.

Only Fri cattle that don't get pass 560 kilos is the ones out of NZ type mongrel cows.

I always put the sire on passports to show they are real friesians

 

[Chimera]

Dear or dear where to start

Fri steers are best sold fat but you MUST get weight on them and they need to be 660/700 kilos liveweight when sent deadweight, easy to average £1150/1200 dead for Fri steers on the current fat trade if fhinshed correctly.

I buy Forward FRi stores as they are generally very cheap for the weight they carry and easy to clear £100 net profit on them in 120 days and if you buy 500 kilo ones then its easy if feed correctly to double your money in 4 months.

I thought that stores have been off the scale? Please tell us all about these "double your money" cattle.

 

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I thought that stores have been off the scale? Please tell us all about these "double your money" cattle.

Yep they have been and that includes Fri steers but until the last few weeks it has been possible to buy Fri steers that will double in money.

 

[Chimera]

Yep they have been and that includes Fri steers but until the last few weeks it has been possible to buy Fri steers that will double in money.

So, 500kg at what? £650-£700?

120 days at 1.5kg/day is 180kg, so you now have a 680kg bullock killing out at 50%, so 340kg d/w.

340 x £3.20 for a -o gives £1084 before costs. .....

I call bollox!

 

[dinderleat]

So, 500kg at what? £650-£700?

120 days at 1.5kg/day is 180kg, so you now have a 680kg bullock killing out at 50%, so 340kg d/w.

340 x £3.20 for a -o gives £1084 before costs. .....

I call bollox!

Those 500 kg HF steers were only making £1 kg back so yes it is possible

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Dear or dear where to start

Fri steers are best sold fat but you MUST get weight on them and they need to be 660/700 kilos liveweight when sent deadweight, easy to average £1150/1200 dead for Fri steers on the current fat trade if fhinshed correctly.

I buy Forward FRi stores as they are generally very cheap for the weight they carry and easy to clear £100 net profit on them in 120 days and if you buy 500 kilo ones then its easy if feed correctly to double your money in 4 months.

120 days is four months well it is up north anyway and they clear £100/ head so if they are doubling themselves in value as well, say you spend £180 in feed etc you must be buying them at £300 and selling at £600? That's the only way that equation fits by my maths.

 

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120 days is four months well it is up north anyway and they clear £100/ head so if they are doubling themselves in value as well, say you spend £180 in feed etc you must be buying them at £300 and selling at £600? That's the only way that equation fits by my maths.

Buy at £550/600 and sell for double that.

Profit is in buying the right cattle for the right money ( something which has been nigh on impossible the last few weeks mind )

 

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So, 500kg at what? £650-£700?

120 days at 1.5kg/day is 180kg, so you now have a 680kg bullock killing out at 50%, so 340kg d/w.

340 x £3.20 for a -o gives £1084 before costs. .....

I call bollox!

You can call it what you want but if you feed them right/ buy at the right price then its entirely possible.

And I would be very unhappy if I averaged les than £1130/1150 for Fri steers on the current deadweight price ( easy to top £1200 head with the right steers now )

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

You can call it what you want but if you feed them right/ buy at the right price then its entirely possible.

And I would be very unhappy if I averaged les than £1130/1150 for Fri steers on the current deadweight price ( easy to top £1200 head with the right steers now )

What do you feed your fat cattle? How many kilos? Normally sell our friesian steers as stores but got a few we wouldn't mind finishing just to see what is the best.

 

[Sheep135]

No by a LONG mile

Where do you send your cattle to?
I'd say Merthyr take a bit of beating on dairy and dairy x cattle.

 

[tit puller]

You can call it what you want but if you feed them right/ buy at the right price then its entirely possible.

And I would be very unhappy if I averaged les than £1130/1150 for Fri steers on the current deadweight price ( easy to top £1200 head with the right steers now )

 

[tit puller]

guth can you rise to the challenge and put a recent kill sheet of yours on here,because you make the rest of us feeding black and whites sound like crap farmers

 

[beefandsleep]

Those 500 kg HF steers were only making £1 kg back so yes it is possible

But that is on a rising trade so does not count. You couldn't replace them for £1/kg.
500 kg Fresians would be £750 now and with zero chance of doubling themselves.

 

[beefandsleep]

We all have different opinions but I much prefer to feed them from lower weights and kill them at 600 kilos, feed conversion is terrible at heavier weights.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

We all have different opinions but I much prefer to feed them from lower weights and kill them at 600 kilos, feed conversion is terrible at heavier weights.

I'm certainly finding that with the b/w bulls dlwg is as high at 350kg eating 7kg a day as when they weigh 550 eating 11kg. As soon as they weigh 520kg at home they are gone.