Stress and suicide

[Nantwich lad]

Not in anyway to compare or contrast the post office scandal covered up for many years by a government body. However has the question ever been asked in regard to the government bodies that we as farmers have to cope with including a non government body ie Red Tractor about how many mental health issues and suicides have and could be attributed to these regulatory agencies, or even miscarriages of justice's. Perhaps it is time for farmers to highlight the real problems created by people that have no real understanding of agriculture or farming. Until we have some details of the number of people effected how are we to highlight these issues. Farming being a lonely carer, we tend to keep these issues to ourselves.
There are some people working within these agencies that have the same arrogance attitude towards farmers as the investigating officers that were within the post office. No doubt there are many farmers who have been tipped over the edge by these over zealous officials.

 

[jendan]

Not in anyway to compare or contrast the post office scandal covered up for many years by a government body. However has the question ever been asked in regard to the government bodies that we as farmers have to cope with including a non government body ie Red Tractor about how many mental health issues and suicides have and could be attributed to these regulatory agencies, or even miscarriages of justice's. Perhaps it is time for farmers to highlight the real problems created by people that have no real understanding of agriculture or farming. Until we have some details of the number of people effected how are we to highlight these issues. Farming being a lonely carer, we tend to keep these issues to ourselves.
There are some people working within these agencies that have the same arrogance attitude towards farmers as the investigating officers that were within the post office. No doubt there are many farmers who have been tipped over the edge by these over zealous officials.

Sadly there are many cases,but its usually caused by Defra or animal welfare trading standards inspectors. RPA inspectors can cause it aswell,but not as much now as there are no financial penalties for non compliance.

Red tractor audits/inspections are still voluntary,well,unless you are a milk seller. But Defra,APHA,RPA,Environment Agency, and Trading Standards are mandatory.

Not many farmers want to talk about any problems they have,or might have had either on a public forum.

One Trading Standards employee actually said to me,in pure Post Office vein , "you are the only farmer who has this problem"......................when i know for a fact from talking to my friends and other farmers that i am definitely not the only one.

However,they are not all like that,and one inspector lass i had recently could not have been more helpful.

 

[Rookie]

Similar to the suicide of the head teacher that was blamed on ofsted inspection. Puts a lot of stress on individuals.
Difference with farming is you are usually trying to do all the different jobs, physical and paper work usually on your own and there doesn't seem to be enough hours in the day! And just adds more stress.

 

[Agrivator]

A good example of one aspect of Farm Assurance which causes stress is the continuous blatant lie, perpetuated by the control freaks, that farm assurance is demanded by the consumer.

I don't think that there is a single case of a consumer, without being prompted, having made any such demand.

 

[topground]

Has the inquest into the death of Richard Haddock taken place yet?

 

[glasshouse]

Not in anyway to compare or contrast the post office scandal covered up for many years by a government body. However has the question ever been asked in regard to the government bodies that we as farmers have to cope with including a non government body ie Red Tractor about how many mental health issues and suicides have and could be attributed to these regulatory agencies, or even miscarriages of justice's. Perhaps it is time for farmers to highlight the real problems created by people that have no real understanding of agriculture or farming. Until we have some details of the number of people effected how are we to highlight these issues. Farming being a lonely carer, we tend to keep these issues to ourselves.
There are some people working within these agencies that have the same arrogance attitude towards farmers as the investigating officers that were within the post office. No doubt there are many farmers who have been tipped over the edge by these over zealous officials.

Late may and early june was always a time to recuperate and take some time off.
Now that window is filled with iacs forms and farm assurance visits.
Its never ending pressure.

 

[glasshouse]

Not in anyway to compare or contrast the post office scandal covered up for many years by a government body. However has the question ever been asked in regard to the government bodies that we as farmers have to cope with including a non government body ie Red Tractor about how many mental health issues and suicides have and could be attributed to these regulatory agencies, or even miscarriages of justice's. Perhaps it is time for farmers to highlight the real problems created by people that have no real understanding of agriculture or farming. Until we have some details of the number of people effected how are we to highlight these issues. Farming being a lonely carer, we tend to keep these issues to ourselves.
There are some people working within these agencies that have the same arrogance attitude towards farmers as the investigating officers that were within the post office. No doubt there are many farmers who have been tipped over the edge by these over zealous officials.

Four farmers did it in this area in last ten yrs
They were all tenants and had all been evicted from farms

 

[Lazy Eric]

Some Landlords agents have a lot to answer for with their bully boy ways regards rent reviews etc. One in particular keeps cropping up , beginning with S. Same name as Britain’s most famous nonce

 

[glasshouse]

Some Landlords agents have a lot to answer for with their bully boy ways regards rent reviews etc. One in particular keeps cropping up , beginning with S. Same name as Britain’s most famous nonce

They are scumbags

 

[Bury the Trash]

Has the inquest into the death of Richard Haddock taken place yet?

Devon farming legend died from shotgun wound

Farmer and farming champion Richard Anthony Haddock died of the fatal wound just a few days after appearing in court on charges of illegally disposing waste

www.devonlive.com

 

[glasshouse]

Topsoil is classed as waste

 

[hendrebc]

@Nantwich lad I noticed you have another thread on the go called rpa inspection....
I hope your OK....

 

[Zippy768]

Late may and early june was always a time to recuperate and take some time off.
Now that window is filled with iacs forms and farm assurance visits.
Its never ending pressure.

Yep, June is about as quiet as it can get here - holiday booked.....oh and red tractor visit on the 25th!!

 

[Bury the Trash]

Topsoil is classed as waste

there was /had bee n other stuff hassle ing him for sometime than just that case ,but that was the final straw it seems
had lost his house etc. iirc. poor chap.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

Is there enough done to give support to people in that state of mind? Even to council people after a person does commit suicide? I know some people never ask for help and it's kinda hard to find out if someone thinks like that. But with farming it is very stressful and well it's a bigger strain...

thefarmingforum.co.uk

 

[Bury the Trash]

@Nantwich lad I noticed you have another thread on the go called rpa inspection....
I hope your OK....

You can be ok and still talk/ want to talk / be Able to talk about the subject of suicide , depression being overwhelmed by stuff .getting diagnosed /;or not with an illness like bipolar .and the like.and more.

It's a subject that's as worthy as discussing broken bones and the likes cancer et al.

 

[hendrebc]

You can be ok and still talk/ want to talk / be Able to talk about the subject of suicide , depression being overwhelmed by stuff .getting diagnosed /;or not with an illness like bipolar .and the like.and more.

It's a subject that's as worthy as discussing broken bones and the likes cancer et al.

Yes but I thought it was worth asking. He could pm me or I would like to think anyone on this forum and they would try and help if we could.
Worth asking even if it's only to point out to whoever reads this thread that the OP has had an inspection and then started this thread soon after.....
maybe they aren't depressed but its easy to see why you might be in that situation

 

[czechmate]

Late may and early june was always a time to recuperate and take some time off.
Now that window is filled with iacs forms and farm assurance visits.
Its never ending pressure.

Iacs forma, feck that‘s over 30 years ago

 

[glasshouse]

Iacs forma, feck that‘s over 30 years ago

I still call it iacs

 

[Peckerhead]

Well written and thought provoking opening post and subsequent replies but I can't help worry that threads with the dreaded "S" word in the title are a magnet to anyone having a bit of a wobble, which, when u consider everything we have to battle against to run a farm isn't surprising every now and then! When you think about it the external auditors that we have to try and please have an easy job, they have a set of standards written down for them and they just have to tick a box if we comply,we on the other hand have to work very hard against the weather,time,financial,staffing, and god knows how many other pressures 365 day of the year to meet all these outcomes in a single sitting! So if you are reading this at your wits end, the sun will still come up tomorrow with a discrepancy in your ear tag records or not and I want you to bloody well see it! If you are having a wobble ring somebody YOU care about and just check on THEM,who knows where the conversation will end up and I guarantee when you come off the phone you will feel better about yourself just for having done it! Chin up you feker,your awesome!