Sudden Death of Sucklers in This Weather.

[Werzle]

.....lost a good bull calf yesterday. Outside with its mother in what seemed like good health on creep, cow milking well and plenty of shelter . It's the second in a week in the same batch !
It's frustrating when you can't see a reason why . Whether it's cow or calf it's a huge loss these days .

Blackleg, feed warmed up in the creep etc etc. I thought most that had dead ones nowadays claimed they died in transit and had an insurance claim. Nothing worse than not knowing whats killing them i agree

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Blackleg, feed warmed up in the creep etc etc. I thought most that had dead ones nowadays claimed they died in transit and had an insurance claim. Nothing worse than not knowing whats killing them i agree

You can only have so many claims ....
Interesting point about the feed warming up though !

 

[Werzle]

You can only have so many claims ....
Interesting point about the feed warming up though !

Even the beef nuts i feed have gone off quicker this time in the feeders so i would imagine your home mix would be worse

 

[Uggman]

Anyone else had a rough time of time of it? We had a dead cow on Wednesday morning and then two more side by side this morning, all in the same field.
Its very mild to bring them in ,which brings its own problems. They look content enough and have plenty straw , molasses and mag buckets, their spring calves are on them and creep fed. We have never had an issue for years, so a bit pee'd off.
Vet was here , its not anthrax.....and will give mag and ca level results later.
Anyone else have stock not liking it?

S.

Fog fever?

 

[Bill dog]

Is blackleg seasonal? We would get it on my Grandpa’s farm with yearlings sent to graze. It’s hugely frustrating, with the vaccine costing pennies!

 

[Werzle]

Is blackleg seasonal? We would get it on my Grandpa’s farm with yearlings sent to graze. It’s hugely frustrating, with the vaccine costing pennies!

Worst outbreaks are after rain on warm ground, usually about the same time mushrooms start to appear in my experience

 

[bigw]

Nearly guarantee it will be staggers. I remember speaking to feed rep a few years ago who said their local knackerman had over 200 to pickup after a rough day and night of weather.

 

[cattleman123]

Crystalyx salesmans wet dream this thread

Just so you all know Rumenco produce an 80kg tub which...well looks exactly the same as the Crystalyx ...its high mag and cows love it and 10quid cheaper

 

[Hfd Cattle]

A shout here for Dennis Brinicombes various licks. I rate them highly.
However we use R D Chesters for our liquid feed .

 

[JSmith]

Ours are never without a crystalyx hi-mag, had six down one morning years ago, they’d been grazing another field in the day without a lick, the next morning 6 flat out an got the shakes, can’t remember if we lost one though but it was exciting at the time
A neighbour lost two out of three last week, no lick!! Change of weather gets my vote for cause

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Ours are never without a crystalyx hi-mag, had six down one morning years ago, they’d been grazing another field in the day without a lick, the next morning 6 flat out an got the shakes, can’t remember if we lost one though but it was exciting at the time
A neighbour lost two out of three last week, no lick!! Change of weather gets my vote for cause

Like was purely for your last sentence !

 

[hagar]

Got me worried now. I still have 50+ on some of the roughest ground in the district with only an occasional tub for a supplement!

You'll can see them easier from your house than I can from mine if you've got a decent set of binoculars.

Rough ground disny worry me so much, would still tub them tho.
I think a lot depends on the breed tae, lot o my bother in past was limmy or saler cross, found the least wee thing can knock them off the chap.

 

[hagar]

Crystalyx salesmans wet dream this thread

It is, but we all seem to agree they're the best/most palatable tubs for the job.
I canny say that they eat them like sweeties, but at least they take them in.

My sheep on the other hand are like me when I open a box o chocolates!!
Gimmee more

 

[hagar]

Worst outbreaks are after rain on warm ground, usually about the same time mushrooms start to appear in my experience

We had a bullock once with it about 25 year ago, it went off its grub and vet came but couldny find anything. It survived about a week then snuffed it.
Was the knackery man that skins etc that phoned next day to tell us.
Our cattle come in 2nd/3rd week in october and this happened in the December, vet blamed it on the fact we'd cut a bit o a grazing field that'd never been cut before and must've had haybob dragging in dirt.
we jagged the rest for clostridials and thankfully it was a 1 off, but still no convinced it was dirty bales as it looked clean????

 

[Werzle]

It is, but we all seem to agree they're the best/most palatable tubs for the job.
I canny say that they eat them like sweeties, but at least they take them in.

My sheep on the other hand are like me when I open a box o chocolates!!
Gimmee more

Not me, i prefer mag flakes in water tanks and a few lifeline precalver tubs before calving

 

[cattleman123]

It is, but we all seem to agree they're the best/most palatable tubs for the job.
I canny say that they eat them like sweeties, but at least they take them in.

My sheep on the other hand are like me when I open a box o chocolates!!
Gimmee more

You can buy 2 pallets of 80kg tubs for the price of a good cow and calf...and then you have some flower pots if you so wish

 

[JSmith]

I find intakes vary at different times of year, I wouldn’t say they just eat the crystalix just for the sake of it!

 

[Estate fencing.]

Nearly guarantee it will be staggers. I remember speaking to feed rep a few years ago who said their local knackerman had over 200 to pickup after a rough day and night of weather.

I thought sheep where bad for dieing. I don’t have anything to do with cattle anymore but when I was at school my dad got me to get milkers in one wet October afternoon and 3 dropped dead on the track, bit of a shock that was to a 15 year old!

 

[milkloss]

I thought sheep where bad for dieing. I don’t have anything to do with cattle anymore but when I was at school my dad got me to get milkers in one wet October afternoon and 3 dropped dead on the track, bit of a shock that was to a 15 year old!

Fog fever does that.

 

[Bullring]

You can buy 2 pallets of 80kg tubs for the price of a good cow and calf...and then you have some flower pots if you so wish

That’s my theory too, I’d rather spend some on mag tubs that they actually have good intakes with than pay for a dead cow and it’s replacement. A lot of the cheaper mag tubs they won’t touch, mag is bitter so intakes are poor.