Sugar beet price 2024

[Bill Turtle]

No email yet.

 

[robbie]

Most, me included, got an email on Friday, more emails will go to those that haven't heard today.
I didn't get extra tonnage and neither did most people I've spoken to, although some have and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.

I've spoke to my fieldsman and he's as bewildered by it as the rest of us, I did ask the question how many new growers had they got???? I reminded him that if they had took on new growers rather than looking after existing ones, they just need to remember who it was who stuck with them growing beet in the bad years!!!!!

I did wonder if BS are still on there pursuit of divide and conquer and they think going forward they stand a better chance of winning over new growers with Mickey mouse contract offers than us longterm growers.
Time will tell but it'll be interesting to see what's what.

 

[lloyd]

I'm bemused by the amount of farmers asking for extra tonnages .
Going back a few pages on here the consensus seemed to be that
beet was only marginally profitable.What happened?

 

[Flat 10]

I'm bemused by the amount of farmers asking for extra tonnages .
Going back a few pages on here the consensus seemed to be that
beet was only marginally profitable.What happened?

everything else gets worse

 

[essex man]

I'm bemused by the amount of farmers asking for extra tonnages .
Going back a few pages on here the consensus seemed to be that
beet was only marginally profitable.What happened?

Indeed, you'd think they were offering £50 a ton!

 

[spin cycle]

The surplus is available on a first come; first served basis at a small premium to fellow TFF’ers all apart from @robbie as he used such mean words about me!
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if it's any consolation he's mean to me to

 

[robbie]

if it's any consolation he's mean to me to

Look on the bright side @spin cycle just imagine the stick id have given you if you'd signed the unilateral contract offer!!!!!

 

[Flat 10]

When does the trading period start for new crop beet on the czapp?

 

[Bill Turtle]

Today has to go down as a rare good day!
Passed my ACCS inspection and got the tonnage of beet I applied for.

 

[robbie]

Well done.
Not knocking you but I gather your down in Essex, what distance are you from bury???
It seems odd you've got extra when I know of several others, who I would guess would be much closer to the factories, me included haven't got any.

 

[Bill Turtle]

I am paid on 27 miles. I had honestly given up all hope of getting what I offered to grow, and have been sat at home looking at cashflows and cropping plans. It is very difficult to know how these contracts are decided.

 

[robbie]

Only a mile more than me.
I had hoped to get the extra I wanted as I'd planned to have that as my break crop on a new block of land, not just this year but every year going forward.
Im frustrated, not just because of the financial/cash flow aspects and cropping plans but because I love growing beet!!!
I don't want to fanny about with beans,peas, linseed, osr.

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

Only a mile more than me.
I had hoped to get the extra I wanted as I'd planned to have that as my break crop on a new block of land, not just this year but every year going forward.
Im frustrated, not just because of the financial/cash flow aspects and cropping plans but because I love growing beet!!!
I don't want to fanny about with beans,peas, linseed, osr.

Excuse me....

Peas!?!

Edit...

Not sure why your laughing flatty bags are sat here waiting

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Farming Today this morning was talking about a new way to tackle the problem of virus yellows. Apparently the researchers are going for a spray type thing which knocks out the virus itself and not the aphid vectors and hence does not damage the aphid predators. It's something on the lines of the rna research used against coronavirus if I understood it right.

 

[Rookie]

For beet sold on the futures market through Czapp, where do you get the login details from and when does it open to trade ?
Not used it before. Watched the zoom meeting a few weeks ago but forgot what was said.

 

[Flat 10]

For beet sold on the futures market through Czapp, where do you get the login details from and when does it open to trade ?
Not used it before. Watched the zoom meeting a few weeks ago but forgot what was said.

@Daniel ?
I asked the same thing but had no response

 

[crashbox]

Surely the real question is "what does it cost to grow/lift/get to the yard", plus return on investment/depreciation/contingency... No?

 

[MeavyHetal]

I manage 2 contracts and due to rotation one of the businesses beet area was down by 50% in 2023 and was encouraged by fields person to put down the estimated tonnage and correct acreage (keeps the computer system happy apparently). Adding back the tonnage in 2024. Fast forward a year and have applied for some extra tonnage (not 50% maybe 25%) and it's a no from BS. Rather frustrating to have lost the tonnage as having grown beet on the farm since ww2 not missing a year.

Fair comment about the true cost to grow crashbox.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

For beet sold on the futures market through Czapp, where do you get the login details from and when does it open to trade ?
Not used it before. Watched the zoom meeting a few weeks ago but forgot what was said.

Opens early next wk according to Tom Clark