yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
My elicit looks the same Compared to basset which is greener
More n earlier is the future plan
Second wheat basset that Had more n earlier show much less leaf tipping
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More n earlier is the future plan
Second wheat basset that Had more n earlier show much less leaf tipping
- Location
- South Wiltshire
All my Elicit has tipping too, but Siskin and Basset in next door fields don't. All treated the same.
- Location
- northampton
Is he just trying to make up for lost earnings or do I not question him and put it on and pay the bill
That a pretty heavy hit ! Pressure and conditions must be much harsher (wetter) with you than it is here ? whats it costing you ? serviced looking at the products ?
My (early) T1 has cost £12.78/ha (CTL plus Teb)
another £4 spent on trace elements mang / mag and K so £16.78 total
no growth reg
just need to add rain now .............. hopefully this evening !
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- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Quite a standard agrii programs I had it prescribed a few years ago when elatus (ceratavo) first came about.
Id ask him to price the alternatives:
Kantor- swap for any run of the mill wetter/spreader
Ceritavo- swap for elatus era
Danconil- swap for any ctl
Brutus- you don't need that if using elatus as that has prothio in it but will be weaker on rust.
4 yield extra- last time I had some and sent it back,it was about 100 quid for 5lt and when you read the label it contains the best part of bugger all. It could be changed for MN+mgs03
Adjust- swap for ccc
Alitrin evo- swap for modus.
I don't know the crop or your area so I'm not criticising the mix it's more the choice of products which make up the mix. Alitrin evo will be at least twice that of moddus, Kantor although very good is also about 5 times the price of alternatives. 4 yield extra.... how much do you want the circumference of your anus enlarged.
I've been there done that.
Id ask him to price the alternatives:
Kantor- swap for any run of the mill wetter/spreader
Ceritavo- swap for elatus era
Danconil- swap for any ctl
Brutus- you don't need that if using elatus as that has prothio in it but will be weaker on rust.
4 yield extra- last time I had some and sent it back,it was about 100 quid for 5lt and when you read the label it contains the best part of bugger all. It could be changed for MN+mgs03
Adjust- swap for ccc
Alitrin evo- swap for modus.
I don't know the crop or your area so I'm not criticising the mix it's more the choice of products which make up the mix. Alitrin evo will be at least twice that of moddus, Kantor although very good is also about 5 times the price of alternatives. 4 yield extra.... how much do you want the circumference of your anus enlarged.
I've been there done that.
- Location
- northampton
Just looking for a new agronomist if anybody knows a good independent that covers south Northants
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
What is 4 yield extra?
My T1, stuck with the Evo in the end, never got round to swapping it.
My T1, stuck with the Evo in the end, never got round to swapping it.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
From memory it's a magic potion which contains a little of everything eg mn,mg,cu,zn,N, ect
Other simular products agrii used to push were yield and quark.
Other simular products agrii used to push were yield and quark.
- Location
- northampton
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
How much is the 4 yield extra per litre????
You'd get the same or more from a couple kgs of epso top, 0.6lt of manganese and a cap full of copper all for under £2.
Depends what value you put on humic acids and whether they work as to whether it's worth it.
You'd get the same or more from a couple kgs of epso top, 0.6lt of manganese and a cap full of copper all for under £2.
Depends what value you put on humic acids and whether they work as to whether it's worth it.
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My t0 and t1 cost nothing except for some home brew foliar feed + ccc + some weed tidy up, crops have no disease ATM, I'd be thinking they are trying to bend you over
That looks like a shocking recommendation given fungicide resistance concerns and can guess which company recommended it. Too my mind it goes against FRAG UK guidelines. Brutus at 0.45 l/ha is a very expensive low rate of Triazole, in fact it's only 15% of full rate, which is a waste of time, especially combined with low rate SDHI. I can't believe they are still recommending such mixes..................
Two SDHI's at T1-not got one planned for T2?
Good man smart mouth, I didn’t mention anybody benefitting or if it was cheaper or dearer or anything else. It’s a new formulation of the same strength active that as a result requires a lower rate. It’s a good product, that works with plenty of growers to back that up. You can think what you like but make sure you read the post before mouthing off.
SilliamWhale
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I don't think the fungicide element of what you are applying is outrageous there. You are sharing out your sdhi between two brands and adding CTL. The other stuff I don't bother with but the fundamentals of the fungicides there I don't think is terrible for an sdhi x 2 programme.
Its all very well boys on here saying just use an old triazole but from an agronomist point of view its hard to do that without potentially knowing what the future brings. And I say this as a penny pincher