Taking back control

[Exfarmer]

We are all aware, the one group of people who campaigned and fought the hardest for Brexit, were the fishermen. The loss of the UK fleet was the driver for much of this communities desire to be shot of the EU.
However DEFRA have now recognised the unfortunate fact that after the withdrawal things are highly unlikely to change. 88% of Welsh quota has been sold over 50% of the English quota has been sold. Inn fact one, yes just one boat! Has got control of 20%, of the entire English quota. This Spanish boat registered in I believe Iceland with Dutch owners operates out of Vigo and lands all its catch there.
Defra and we must assume Michael Gove recognises that this situation will not change after Brexit. There is also a good possibilities landings will fall in the UK as much of the fish landed here is exported to the EU in any possible tarriff situations a skipper is not going to land here when he can simply just cross the North sea

 

[Henarar]

who was responsible for it being sold ?
the selling of quota is a separate issue from Brexit isn't it

 

[capfits]

We are all aware, the one group of people who campaigned and fought the hardest for Brexit, were the fishermen. The loss of the UK fleet was the driver for much of this communities desire to be shot of the EU.
However DEFRA have now recognised the unfortunate fact that after the withdrawal things are highly unlikely to change. 88% of Welsh quota has been sold over 50% of the English quota has been sold. Inn fact one, yes just one boat! Has got control of 20%, of the entire English quota. This Spanish boat registered in I believe Iceland with Dutch owners operates out of Vigo and lands all its catch there.
Defra and we must assume Michael Gove recognises that this situation will not change after Brexit. There is also a good possibilities landings will fall in the UK as much of the fish landed here is exported to the EU in any possible tarriff situations a skipper is not going to land here when he can simply just cross the North sea

The fishermen knew this and were active in the seller by of the quota. A bit like the dairy game on the high seas, but one that can never be allowed to go back to the free for all of pre CFP.

 

[Exfarmer]

It was sold bythe fishermen. I am not sure how we ar going to police Spanish registered trawlers fishing our waters or what benefits the British fishermen are going to get from Brexit

 

[Hindsight]

An interesting OP and something I had pondered while watching Newsnight a few days ago. What happens if I happen to be the owner of a Dutch trawler that bought quota. Does UK post Brexit compensate me for the EU quota I bought in good faith? Or will it just be expropriated. And as a British fisherman will I get allocated more quota or qouta again even though I sold it years ago to that Dutchman - historic like! Fascinated to see how this pans out. I always thought that there were a few fishermen more than happy to cash in quota and this has been brushed under carpet by Gove et al.

 

[Henarar]

Well they can't have their cake and eat it

 

[Hindsight]

Well they can't have their cake and eat it

Who are 'they'? and in relation to this issue what is their cake?

 

[RobFZS]

Doubt anyone really gives a sh!t about fishermen, or their bizarre whinge that only accounts for 0.05% of the economy.

 

[Ashtree]

Doubt anyone really gives a sh!t about fishermen, or their bizarre whinge that only accounts for 0.05% of the economy.

Farage has the same contempt as you for British fishermen.

https://descrier.co.uk/politics/bre...d-one-42-eu-fisheries-committee-meetings/amp/

 

[wanton dwarf]

I cannot see why EU quotas would apply post Brexit ?

Wouldn't these quotas cease to have any legal or material value ?

 

[rob1]

Farage has the same contempt as you for British fishermen.

https://descrier.co.uk/politics/bre...d-one-42-eu-fisheries-committee-meetings/amp/

Rehash two year old news on NF.
when the transition period is finished we will have control, no different to the farm subs, until then bugger all will change, BUT Ireland will still be taking orders from Brussels and of course paying for the privilige

 

[Exfarmer]

An interesting OP and something I had pondered while watching Newsnight a few days ago. What happens if I happen to be the owner of a Dutch trawler that bought quota. Does UK post Brexit compensate me for the EU quota I bought in good faith? Or will it just be expropriated. And as a British fisherman will I get allocated more quota or qouta again even though I sold it years ago to that Dutchman - historic like! Fascinated to see how this pans out. I always thought that there were a few fishermen more than happy to cash in quota and this has been brushed under carpet by Gove et al.

You cannot take this quota back, the courts here would not allow it.

 

[Ashtree]

You cannot take this quota back, the courts here would not allow it.

But the courts have already proved themselves in the eyes of the Brexiteers to be enemies of the people.

 

[rob1]

But the courts have already proved themselves in the eyes of the Brexiteers to be enemies of the people.

As usual you only reply to quotes that suit your trolling but ignore posts that prove you wrong

 

[Ashtree]

As usual you only reply to quotes that suit your trolling but ignore posts that prove you wrong

You do like to tackle the man don’t you! Always a sign of a clumsy, awkward ill prepared player.

 

[rob1]

You do like to tackle the man don’t you! Always a sign of a clumsy, awkward ill prepared player.

whereas you always tackle the subject,NOT, so are fishing quotas going to be under our control after the transition period, while Ireland will still be doing as its told and paying for it ?

 

[caveman]

Farage has the same contempt as you for British fishermen.

https://descrier.co.uk/politics/bre...d-one-42-eu-fisheries-committee-meetings/amp/

That is absolute bollox.
Writen to suit an agenda.
That committee is nothing more than a catch up gossiping shop for freeloaders.
It has even less power and influence in the greater scheme of things than @Pasty 's parish council sub division allotment committee has.
A guy of Nigel Farages standing and political worth has far bigger fish to fry and cannot afford to waste his time with such an irrelevant body.

 

[caveman]

You cannot take this quota back, the courts here would not allow it.

Oh?
Where the fekk did my suck cow and ewe quota go then?
And where's my compensation?

 

[caveman]

Doubt anyone really gives a sh!t about fishermen, or their bizarre whinge that only accounts for 0.05% of the economy.

I for one give far more of a shite for British fishermen than those from any other European country.
Can't say as I give a shite for your attitude if that's your opinion.

 

[DrWazzock]

The problem is that the quota has been bought and paid for by foreign trawlers or operators. It was sold willingly by British fishermen. You can't just grab it back without compensating the owners of the quota and then why will British fishermen suddenly want it again? If they want it, why did they sell it? To set up a new system that only allows quota to be allocated to British fishermen would be a bit odd. What next? Get rid of all the foreign firms from the country? There wouldn't be much left.

Yes, a lot of this has been swept under the carpet.