The Beast from the East!

[steveR]

Yes I bought a few specially and have them strapped on the side of the glucose pot in the meds cupboard.

And note the temperature.

IMO this is not a procedure to undertake lightly - I don't like the fact that the vet above seems to be using a "healthy" lamb as far as I can see.

The best thing we ever learned was that heat is no good if it creates drafts through air movement.

Thanks. I totally agree about it being a procedure to use with care. I'm thinking more use the technique, or have a dead lamb type decision.

Might have to get someone experienced to show me properly.

 

[GrannyAching]

Thanks. I totally agree about it being a procedure to use with care. I'm thinking more use the technique, or have a dead lamb type decision.

Might have to get someone experienced to show me properly.

It's fairly risk free and these animals will die without treatment.

I think I was trying to say follow the decision tree - don't rush to use it when stomach tubing etc are still and option.

 

[irish dom]

Tunnel here is 120ft long and only 160 can eat on the feeding passage, your walkthrough troughs will feed 10 each side or 20 altogether so you need another 14 troughs to feed 300, I think you're only planning eight, not criticising just flagging it.
Your actual sheep accommadation is 200sq mtrs each side, each ewe needs a sq mtr at the very minimum

Appreciate that rancher. Have no experience of housing so any advice is appreciated. My advisor reckoned I would manage 350 in 6 bays but I knew that was very tight. Would need to cover an acre at this rate of going! Have sheared 300 into a 4 bay double not as wide and I don't know how they eat. Unless a small walk throgh trough along the back wall would alleviate the pressure. It looks a very big shed on paper but that doesn't necessarily mean it's big enough of course.

 

[Nearly]

Appreciate that rancher. Have no experience of housing so any advice is appreciated. My advisor reckoned I would manage 350 in 6 bays but I knew that was very tight. Would need to cover an acre at this rate of going! Have sheared 300 into a 4 bay double not as wide and I don't know how they eat. Unless a small walk throgh trough along the back wall would alleviate the pressure. It looks a very big shed on paper but that doesn't necessarily mean it's big enough of course.

Precast wall panels mean you could stick a lean to on (one or both sides) and just move the walls outwards.
Blocks are so last century.

 

[Sheep92]

Precast wall panels mean you could stick a lean to on (one or both sides) and just move the walls outwards.
Blocks are so last century.

Id go precast walls as well, theyre a great job and give a great finish to a shed

 

[irish dom]

Id go precast walls as well, theyre a great job and give a great finish to a shed

Id go precast walls as well, theyre a great job and give a great finish to a shed

Easier on my arms too. Been a good few years since I was labouring to 3 brickies. Soon got told if mix wasn't up to scratch. Would save a he'll of alot of donkey work and I do enough of that as it is. Anybody any idea of cost of 15 foot by 5 foot tall panels?

 

[Nearly]

Easier on my arms too. Been a good few years since I was labouring to 3 brickies. Soon got told if mix wasn't up to scratch. Would save a he'll of alot of donkey work and I do enough of that as it is. Anybody any idea of cost of 15 foot by 5 foot tall panels?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Concrete...hash=item4ae853c011:m:mrP4INX_gKo6v_JaQaq932g
as a guide?

 

[Forever Fendt]

Easier on my arms too. Been a good few years since I was labouring to 3 brickies. Soon got told if mix wasn't up to scratch. Would save a he'll of alot of donkey work and I do enough of that as it is. Anybody any idea of cost of 15 foot by 5 foot tall panels?

About £24 per m sq plus delivery

 

[Sheep92]

Easier on my arms too. Been a good few years since I was labouring to 3 brickies. Soon got told if mix wasn't up to scratch. Would save a he'll of alot of donkey work and I do enough of that as it is. Anybody any idea of cost of 15 foot by 5 foot tall panels?

We got 12 of them and they were bought and they lifted them in for 3600 euro vat and all included

 

[irish dom]

Thanks for that. Sounds ok at that. Would fair speed up progress. Might get rid of the oul mixer!

 

[newbie]

The glucose needs to be in the body cavity, I’m sure @bovine can give the full reason behind it.

Thanks for this Shearerlad. Doesn't look like anything to be afraid of.

 

[newbie]

The video is useful (although that is not a hypothermic lamb as far as I'm concerned). I have used the Manual of Lambing Techniques (WInter and Hill) instructions/rules the on;y time I thought I needed to inject. @Well Refreshed 's decision tree is great.

And now I can't edit these to get them in the right order! Where is @llamedos ?? Please.

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The writing at the top tells how to make a 5% solution (not as simple as you might think!). Weigh 20g of glucose (I have a dope scale from my worm count kit) and make that up to 100ml.

Great, thanks so much for this! Looks straightforward enough... I'm off to add Glucose to my lambing supplies

 

[exmoor dave]

Thanks for this Shearerlad. Doesn't look like anything to be afraid of.

Brought round a nearly dead 2week old lamb yesterday (pulled from the snow) using the belly jab

 

[GrannyAching]

It's fairly risk free and these animals will die without treatment.

Re the 'healthy lamb' comment I was going to say that it's really only for cold lambs with no body reserves and no to use it in cases of rattle belly/watery mouth etc, but then I see the video. I agree, didn't look to be anything wrong with that lamb. Not sure I'd have made that video!

Brought round a nearly dead 2week old lamb yesterday (pulled from the snow) using the belly jab

Wow! I never thought about it for older animals. To what age could that be used? ie can it be used in barely alive adults that are pulled from drifts?

 

[GrannyAching]

Great, thanks so much for this! Looks straightforward enough... I'm off to add Glucose to my lambing supplies

I bought a tub and then double sealed it in plastic bags to keep the moisture out. Like I said the needles are taped to it so they are totally sterile along with brand new syringes. I thought you had to be really careful, sterilising the injection site as much as possible because if introducing bugs into an already compromised animal.

 

[muleman]

Think that would be the problem with the farmer doing his own...nigh on impossible to keep eveything sterile in the lambing box when your trudging about in the mud.
Most times If stomach tubed and put in the warming box a lamb will be revived from almost dead anyway.

 

[shearerlad]

The beast is still roaring here!!
Another 3 inches has fallen since feed time yesterday, it was about a foot of powder until Sunday when it turned to wet heavy stuff and shrunk to about 7”
The ewes on that ground have only seen grass for 18 days since the 12th of December

 

[ewefool]

Still snowing here also not seen ewes on Hill since last Tuesday was getting a bit worried for them so went as far up fields with bike then walked the last bit with some feed , not much as had to carry it on my shoulders seen about two thirds of them they are looking miserable but okay feel a bit better now I have seen them.

 

[newbie]

The beast is still roaring here!!
Another 3 inches has fallen since feed time yesterday, it was about a foot of powder until Sunday when it turned to wet heavy stuff and shrunk to about 7”
The ewes on that ground have only seen grass for 18 days since the 12th of December

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Can't like that post. It's awful that it's still like that for you.
Perhaps there should be a sad face icon we could press instead, like on Facebook ?
Hope it improves for you soon

 

[shearerlad]

Can't like that post. It's awful that it's still like that for you.
Perhaps there should be a sad face icon we could press instead, like on Facebook ?
Hope it improves for you soon

Thanks
TBH I feel like this area got off pretty lightly compared to others last week. No one is lambing yet and not heard of any major stock losses. Roads were all cleared each day by lunchtime too.
It’s the prolonged lying snow for most of the winter that’s taking its toll on ewes