The economics of autosteer

[Stoxs]

no matter im main driver on just under 600 acre for forseeable future, that chap has no interest in gps either, granted him and his son aint exatcly brilliant drivers, what ive done so far puts them to shame, so he saving money already!

600! you better go steady you might get lost in the fog!!

 

[yorkie]

paint the fenceposts, ideal on horsey paddocks.

We used to spray cerals with two bits of chain hung off the end of the sprayer boom, turn in a semi circle each end and the chain would be on the edge of the last bout. Followe the perfectly straight coulter mark back through the field and hey presto, no stepping up

I got the knack of stepping up quick enough, 1 pole each end of the field, kick a mark 12 yds from tractor, place pole 24yds, drive through and repeat the process at each end, perfect tramlines and you wasnt a fat bas***d at the end of the season

used to do that in 70s dosn't work on hillside one way you overlap other way you miss a strip law of pysichs chain rolls down hill used to have to go back and spray green strips in grass again

 

[John 1594]

This is why there is skill involved with using GPS as well - it's not a driver replacement just a driver aid

There is also a world of difference in accuracy between a entry level system accuracy and a top of range rtk system

trouble is, you may not see it as a driver replacement, but a lot of less "sensible" operators do

oh we have autosteer, lets put an 18 year old ametuer on the drill, he will be ok, its cheaper than putting a good man on it

1 month later when they have tramlines everywhere and stopped coulters from end to end, whos the idiot?

 

[John 1594]

600! you better go steady you might get lost in the fog!!

not liking the valtra, or the team sprayer, have fell in love with the vaderstad though

got all this week establishing els border strips, lovely job

 

[Clive]

trouble is, you may not see it as a driver replacement, but a lot of less "sensible" operators do

oh we have autosteer, lets put an 18 year old ametuer on the drill, he will be ok, its cheaper than putting a good man on it

1 month later when they have tramlines everywhere and stopped coulters from end to end, whos the idiot?

So they need GPS with headland cut off for the drill, a blockage monitor and leave putting the tramlines in to the guy on the rtk equipped sprayer who at least had to pass a few tests to prove he has a brain

See there is a technology answer to almost every problem !

 

[Stoxs]

not liking the valtra, or the team sprayer, have fell in love with the vaderstad though

got all this week establishing els border strips, lovely job

WHAT!!! you are liking a piece of modern equipment?

what model vaderstad?

 

[John 1594]

all costs money dont it?

people take this cost cutting lark very seriously now, anything what can be saved, must!

These big units are also the ones who spill more in the yard loading lorries with a telehandler than i probably harvest in a day

"skilled labour"

As i often remark, "that t**t couldnt farm a window box properly, let alone a 1000 acre. These people seem to be ever more propminet in the industry now too!

 

[John 1594]

WHAT!!! you are liking a piece of modern equipment?

what model vaderstad?

3m rapid, calibration is a piece of cake compared to my amazone, it tows well, doesnt snake about, just wish pre em markers were better

 

[Robt]

John, I really can't understand why you only farm 75 acres. You are perfect and the best at everything you do so I can't understand why you haven't been headhunted by the big firms. Or why your neighbours aren't begging you to farm their land!
You really do make yourself look silly on here. You have just described your new boss and his son as "not exactly brilliant drivers, and so far you have put them to shame!" If I was employing you and read this or someone told me what you have written. I'd say sorry John, we are not worthy if your talent, I suggest you go and slag off someone else that's paying your wages!

 

[Stoxs]

not liking the valtra, or the team sprayer, have fell in love with the vaderstad though

got all this week establishing els border strips, lovely job

good operators make the most of what they have!
A bad worker blames their tools

 

[John 1594]

John, I really can't understand why you only farm 75 acres. You are perfect and the best at everything you do so I can't understand why you haven't been headhunted by the big firms. Or why your neighbours aren't begging you to farm their land!
You really do make yourself look silly on here. You have just described your new boss and his son as "not exactly brilliant drivers, and so far you have put them to shame!" If I was employing you and read this or someone told me what you have written. I'd say sorry John, we are not worthy if your talent, I suggest you go and slag off someone else that's paying your wages!

well considering the father said i had made a better job of the drilling that his son would, where does that put me. He taught his son, they both "manage" to get the work done. He the sort of chap who would rather pay me x amount that disrupt his golf practice to do it himself.

I wouldnt be employed by someone with your attitude anyway, i work for people who respect my views and let me do my job with no interferance

 

[John 1594]

good operators make the most of what they have!
A bad worker blames their tools

ever used a team sprayer

i could write an entire new thread on its problems, but id hate to be branded as old fashioned and not giving new modern kit a chance

 

[yorkie]

thats me done till monday, try not to argue too much lads

think this sums up alot of your posts

 

[John 1594]

think this sums up alot of your posts

was home early this weekend unfortunately

 

[Bruce Almighty]

I guess this thread proves a bit of a point maybe and asks a new question

...... Do tractor drivers feel their job is ultimately threatened by autosteer ?

No I think an autosteer would be too embarrassed to be fitted to a David Brown

 

[Robt]

John, once again your aggression has made you miss the point! Countless times I have said that I respect and enjoy reading your thoughts! I just want to help you come across less of a hot head sometimes. What you may think is acceptable may not be shared by your golf playing boss!
I agree with stoxs, no one calls you rude names. Yes they disagree but aren't rude to you

 

[John 1594]

No I think an autosteer would be too embarrassed to be fitted to a David Brown

doubt it work work either

 

[multi power]

John, I really can't understand why you only farm 75 acres.

thats simple to answer, he farms 75 acres because thats what he has got

 

[Robt]

Yes but surely as everyone knows, land is a very good investment that the best farmers buy!
Bit like classic tractors!

 

[Bruce Almighty]

doubt it work work either

Agreed, DB hydrostatic steering has a mind of its own !