The great global warming scam, worth a listen I think.

[Bogweevil]

Seems the poor old 'denialists' cannot even hang onto the possibility of a slow down in warming in recent years: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...tic-denial-real-sea-temperature-a7510691.html

 

[RobFZS]

It's happening, as it always has done, but we should still try and get clean air/ go for renewables, but the religion of man made climate change is just that, i'm sitting where there was a glacier a couple million years ago, dinosaurs didn't have industry, or did they?

 

[Jackson4]

A shorter vid that argues something similar. A bit technical but a refreshing view all the same.

Synopsis: North pole icecap is melting but only on one side, it's growing on another because the magnetic north pole is moving (it used to be over Canada, now over Siberia).

'Global warming' is actually occurring when the 'heat' from the sun (we don't get heat from the sun, it becomes heat when the radiation interacts with the magnetic field and atmosphere) follows this magnetic field, so the hottest parts of the atmosphere are shifting. Hence some areas are becoming warmer than they used to be (which is what we hear about) and others getting cooler (which is what we don't hear about).

Im sorry i stopped taking it in when he said the magnet field will stop the earths rotation and all that nonsense quackery to do with old culture/religious observations etc which were just metaphors for events in their time (or even made up bullpoo) the guy is a quack i'm afraid. The earths rotation will slow only 20 milliseconds in the next thousand years (according to nasa) not much chance of it coming to a halt.

 

[banjo]

Seems the poor old 'denialists' cannot even hang onto the possibility of a slow down in warming in recent years: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...tic-denial-real-sea-temperature-a7510691.html

The evidence shows that when sunspots increace in activity it heats the earth, this in turn heats up the oceans very slowly, there is a time lag that's proven over the last 2000 years ( from taking samples of ancient arctic ice then removing the gasses and measuring c02 levels ) the charts show earth heats, a few decades later co2 levels rise due to hotter oceans, earth cooles ( fewer sunspots ) a few decades later co2 levels drop, oceans cooler.
Where is the most co2, in the oceans, simple proven science.

 

[MickMoor]

A few years ago I was advising an Icelandic farmer and his insurers about a silo that wasd damaged by an earthquake. There is a map showing geologocally active areas, and he was farming in the most active region in the world. We gottalking about 'climate change' and his words were, "If you live as close to the work of God as I do, you realise how puny are the efforts of man!"
I can't help thinking the climate change has become a substitute for religion. Behave this way, or you and your children will be forever condemned to live in the latest version of purgatory. There is no definitive proof it is man made any more than there is no definitive proof God exists. Of course we are all sophistictaed intelligent beings, and wouldn't fall for some old superstition. Would we?

 

[Gong Farmer]

(according to nasa)

Should have left that bit out. Never A Straight Answer.

 

[dstudent]

i think global warming is happening, but it's not us that's doing it. It's the earths life cycle of the sun heating up the earth and the sea then creating more co2, or less when it's cooler, the delay in the sea warming or cooling is many years simple.
A hell of a lot of scientists believe the same and this realy good vid explains the whole thing in detail, cracking documentary that will open a few eyes.
Hope you watch it as its proven science not dream world stuff.

No Dear Banjo it s not proven science and it s dream world stuff. Worst it s a nightmare. It s misleading misinterpreted obfuscating personal agenda driven crap. Full of half thruths , flawed hypotization and based on the intentional manipolation of data. Please do not let this mount of sh**te projectile vomiting inducing joke of a 'documentary' be the basis of your (and other people out there) understanding of what anthropogenic climate change is. Investigate , debate question, but go to serious sources .

 

[rob1]

No Dear Banjo it s not proven science and it s dream world stuff. Worst it s a nightmare. It s misleading misinterpreted obfuscating personal agenda driven crap. Full of half thruths , flawed hypotization and based on the intentional manipolation of data. Please do not let this mount of sh**te projectile vomiting inducing joke of a 'documentary' be the basis of your (and other people out there) understanding of what anthropogenic climate change is. Investigate , debate question, but go to serious sources .

dont think many would argue that the climate is changing the arguement is whats causing it

 

[Cowabunga]

The good news- we are actually entering an Ice Age, so in the long term the current 'global warming' is insignificant

That is GOOD news?

 

[Roger Perry]

I bet it's those dirty polluting VW products..!!

 

[Wellytrack]

I'm of the view that even if the commonly accepted opinion on climate change is wrong, that at the very least climate change is at least only partially attributed to mankind what is the harm in trying to prevent it?

Decades from now if the opinion is that we were all overly cautious on cutting emissions - won't that be better than the alternative?

 

[Cowabunga]

I'm of the view that even if the commonly accepted opinion on climate change is wrong, that at the very least climate change is at least only partially attributed to mankind what is the harm in trying to prevent it?

Decades from now if the opinion is that we were all overly cautious on cutting emissions - won't that be better than the alternative?

Ah, the ridiculous 'precautionary principle'. You could use this argument against or for anything at all you can dream of. Maybe we should nuke North Korea in case they nuke us first? We'll regret it if they do nuke us first.

 

[Henarar]

Ahh lob another lump of coal on the fire and to hell with it

 

[Wellytrack]

Ah, the ridiculous 'precautionary principle'. You could use this argument against or for anything at all you can dream of. Maybe we should nuke North Korea in case they nuke us first? We'll regret it if they do nuke us first.

Come on, hardly the same as NK at all.

If you were about to put a tablet in your gob that 97% of Medical Practitioners told you would result in your immediate death - would you carry on regardless?

 

[glasshouse]

Global warming climate changeis all bulls**t and may or may not be happening.
Its the arrogance of men who think we can change it i cany stomach

 

[hindmaist]

Global warming climate changeis all bullpoo and may or may not be happening.
Its the arrogance of men who think we can change it i cany stomach

Perhaps the best chance men have of changing it is for them to pray to God.I wonder what odds Mr Green would give you on that working.

 

[Cowabunga]

Come on, hardly the same as NK at all.

If you were about to put a tablet in your gob that 97% of Medical Practitioners told you would result in your immediate death - would you carry on regardless?

It depends on whether I believed them or not and that would depend somewhat on how they were funded and the strength of their evidence. The strength of evidence provided by scientists over the last 20 years has confounded even them. Until yesterday the vast majority had come around to believe that we have been in a 15 year pause in warming that they could not explain. Yet the funding game is starting again and someone has come up with a story that previous ship based measurements were biassed to be warmer than current accurate buoy based ones. Therefore if previous measurements are adjusted downwards, the trend has remained upwards.
Yeah, that sounds plausible.

 

[Old McDonald]

i think global warming is happening, but it's not us that's doing it. It's the earths life cycle of the sun heating up the earth and the sea then creating more co2, or less when it's cooler, the delay in the sea warming or cooling is many years simple.

Your link is a discredited documentary by a previously discredited director who (under pressure) removed certain sections to avoid litigation. And you believe it?

At least you do accept that global temperatures are rising, and I commend you for that. Many people claim they are not. Those with whom I have personal contact are always then asked "Do you keep temperature records yourself?" The answer is invariably No. I do and I know that on the place where I have lived for the past 14 years there has been an increae in the annual mean temperature. I would also add that for me, 2016 was not the warmest year on my short record. 2015 beat it by 0.34ºC.

I believe you are wrong in your decision that it is a natural event, but I will reserve my reasons for that until I retrieve the posts made on FWi on the same subject a few years ago. No point in researching it all again. Easiest to repeat what was posted then.

 

[Wellytrack]

It depends on whether I believed them or not and that would depend somewhat on how they were funded and the strength of their evidence. The strength of evidence provided by scientists over the last 20 years has confounded even them. Until yesterday the vast majority had come around to believe that we have been in a 15 year pause in warming that they could not explain. Yet the funding game is starting again and someone has come up with a story that previous ship based measurements were biassed to be warmer than current accurate buoy based ones. Therefore if previous measurements are adjusted downwards, the trend has remained upwards.
Yeah, that sounds plausible.

I hear what your saying, I too would be somewhat skepical of the level of what our contribution is, to the rising temperatures, but rising they are.

There are literally tens of thousands of study's carried out on Global warming, admittedly and undeniably some of those have conflicts of interest whilst being funded by Green Lobbyists.
Likewise in scale to those, a few hundred reports have been written in disagreement and critical of the common thinking, of the level of climate change being attributed to mans actions, almost all of those critical reports have been funded by oil corporations and fossil fuel lobbyists.

 

[Jackson4]

Should have left that bit out. Never A Straight Answer.

well they have use of atomic clocks and such, tempting as it maybe to say the sun disappeared in 94 as written by a 4 wise men from Seattle.