The "I`ve got it" thread...

[JCMaloney]

Lots of people I know have had various symptoms and effects including myself and son etc etc.
The German machines that can be converted to tell if you have had C19 will allow us to get to the 100's of thousands of tests needed to prove how much herd immunity is already here.
What this C19 has done is prove how big a joke our Civil Service is. Every one is blaming govnt but the Humphreys need thinned out drastically.
Who are the only ones not hurting in this debacle, them. Cut their pensions over 12k a year by 30% to pay for this. We paid it in for them so they can share the pain now.

The same "Humphreys" that have fast tracked a vaccine to start trials tomorrow?
The same "Humphreys" that also pay in to their pensions from their salaries AND pay tax?
The same "Humphreys" that prevent our taxpayers money being spent on openly fraudulent suppliers?

Yours Sincerely

A Humphrey
Just a cog in a big machine....................

 

[Muck Spreader]

Numbers again...............

Up to midnight 20th April
Confirmed inpatients: 204
Discharged: 318
Deceased: 165

Bit of an up tick locally speaking but we are holding out and coping with capacity etc.

PPE.................... 8,000+ "UK Companies" have contacted the government to supply PPE , 159 have so far passed the checks to make sure they can actually do it. Several wanted "cash up front" so didn`t progress, especially those that had only been set up in the last week!!

In good news Phase 1 vaccine trial in humans starts in Oxford on Thursday. The patients will be fit, healthy males between 25-30 who will be given the vaccine, and a fair few ££££`s for doing it.
Good luck to them.

**Correct info here: https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about

Funny how the government fails to mention that the Oxford vaccine is in fact a collaborative project with the Italian biotec company, Advent- IRBM where the vaccine is being manufactured. Having said that, UK scientists are collaborating in 4 of the 11 main vaccine research programs in Europe, more than any other country.

It will be interesting to see how much long term interest "big pharma" maintains in Covid type vaccines and antivirals as these products are frequently not that lucrative for them.

 

[Steevo]

The Oxford team seem very confident so much so that they are going to make a million doses before trials are finished

I'm not sure they are paying for that themselves though. It's a bit like asking a farmer to buy the next new variety of seed on seeing a brochure about it. If it's a dud, I doubt they themselves will lose out directly.

 

[JP1]

This puts an interesting take on the numbers:

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Yes I heard the CMO or someone saying that 8 April may have been the peak but also that UK lags behind London in the curve downwards. I would that thought London was still higher risk / infection?

 

[Steevo]

Funny how the government fails to mention that the Oxford vaccine is in fact a collaborative project with the Italian biotec company, Advent- IRBM where the vaccine is being manufactured. Having said that, UK scientists are collaborating in 4 of the 11 main vaccine research programs in Europe, more than any other country.

It will be interesting to see how much long term interest "big pharma" maintains in Covid type vaccines and antivirals as these products are frequently not that lucrative for them.

Everyone likes to spin the news that suits their agenda. I read this morning there are 100 projects ongoing - hearing Matt Hancock's speech yesterday you'd think that we were in with a significant chance at developing a vaccine first.....yet China and US apparently started human trials some weeks ago.

 

[Steevo]

Yes I heard the CMO or someone saying that 8 April may have been the peak but also that UK lags behind London in the curve downwards. I would that thought London was still higher risk / infection?

Yes, I would agree.

I may be wrong but when lockdown starts to lift I could see sense in the measures being different in London than elsewhere in the country......yet the difficulty is stopping those in London wanting to migrate outside of the enhanced lockdown area, thus keeping everyone the same will likely be the actual outcome.

 

[JP1]

Yes, I would agree.

I may be wrong but when lockdown starts to lift I could see sense in the measures being different in London than elsewhere in the country......yet the difficulty is stopping those in London wanting to migrate outside of the enhanced lockdown area, thus keeping everyone the same will likely be the actual outcome.

There's a real arrogance they can just flee (same as reported in NY with the rich fleeing to their weekend bolt holes)

Also that money just solves any resource being sucked in to support Londoners above any one else. That's got to change

 

[turbo]

Sorry missed this, they are actually increasing as the ONS figures are showing, they will also get worse further down the road as folk avoid going to the Doctors etc.

Thanks for that, it’s nice to get the facts from people on the front line who don’t have an agenda

 

[Muck Spreader]

There's a real arrogance they can just flee (same as reported in NY with the rich fleeing to their weekend bolt holes)

Also that money just solves any resource being sucked in to support Londoners above any one else. That's got to change

Similar happened in Paris. I think "Orange" (the mobile company not the comedy president) reckoned that up to 20% of the population had moved out to their holiday homes, gites etc by looking at the changes in mobile traffic.

 

[Steevo]

Everyone likes to spin the news that suits their agenda. I read this morning there are 100 projects ongoing - hearing Matt Hancock's speech yesterday you'd think that we were in with a significant chance at developing a vaccine first.....yet China and US apparently started human trials some weeks ago.

Germany entering human trials now too.

Still plenty of reminders that it won't be widely available for quite some time i.e. at least a year.

 

[JCMaloney]

Just numbers today............... workload on other stuff has increased...
Confirmed patients: 199
Discharged: 328
Deceased: 178

As is fairly common knowledge these numbers are reported at the various stages that systems confirm the facts.
Confirmed and discharged are (relatively) up to speed barring the time lag between swab & first blood test for inpatients and "clear" test for those being discharged which has to be signed off before they leave.
Deceased can be delayed due to admin and authorisation on our system.
Any statisticians out there can play around to understand if we are on a bumpy plateau, a lumpy downhill or somewhere in between!

 

[onthehoof]

Germany entering human trials now too.

Still plenty of reminders that it won't be widely available for quite some time i.e. at least a year.

Is it possible there will be several vaccines that all work or will it be the first one that works will be ‘the’ one and they will make loads of it for everybody

 

[onthehoof]

Just numbers today............... workload on other stuff has increased...
Confirmed patients: 199
Discharged: 328
Deceased: 178

As is fairly common knowledge these numbers are reported at the various stages that systems confirm the facts.
Confirmed and discharged are (relatively) up to speed barring the time lag between swab & first blood test for inpatients and "clear" test for those being discharged which has to be signed off before they leave.
Deceased can be delayed due to admin and authorisation on our system.
Any statisticians out there can play around to understand if we are on a bumpy plateau, a lumpy downhill or somewhere in between!

Just looking back it will be a month tomorrow since you returned from your illness, on that day I think there were 18 admissions and 2 deaths, would you say there has been less cases/deaths than you anticipated in the month since

 

[Steevo]

Is it possible there will be several vaccines that all work or will it be the first one that works will be ‘the’ one and they will make loads of it for everybody

Good question. I guess that depends on many different factors - cost, ease/speed of manufacture etc.

 

[Breakthru]

The same "Humphreys" that have fast tracked a vaccine to start trials tomorrow?
The same "Humphreys" that also pay in to their pensions from their salaries AND pay tax?
The same "Humphreys" that prevent our taxpayers money being spent on openly fraudulent suppliers?

Yours Sincerely

A Humphrey
Just a cog in a big machine....................

A nurse would have to put 42% of her salary into a private pension to get the same gold plated benefits in the NHS scheme. You are overpaid under worked and grossly over pensioned. Very few on here would give any kind of job to the numpty that blundered about on TV the other day slavering about political decisions, then retracting them.
You haven't suffered one iota compared to the income generators in the economy and it will come back to bite you as the usual CS view is raise taxes, however as we all know that actually raises less money. Seems to pass most Humphreys by.

 

[bobk]

Just numbers today............... workload on other stuff has increased...
Confirmed patients: 199
Discharged: 328
Deceased: 178

As is fairly common knowledge these numbers are reported at the various stages that systems confirm the facts.
Confirmed and discharged are (relatively) up to speed barring the time lag between swab & first blood test for inpatients and "clear" test for those being discharged which has to be signed off before they leave.
Deceased can be delayed due to admin and authorisation on our system.
Any statisticians out there can play around to understand if we are on a bumpy plateau, a lumpy downhill or somewhere in between!

Looking at the graphs from all countries , the lockdown has done it's job of avoiding hospital meltdown , however cases aren't dropping by any substantial rate
This is going to be a slow job.

 

[Steevo]

Looking at the graphs from all countries , the lockdown has done it's job of avoiding hospital meltdown , however cases aren't dropping by any substantial rate
This is going to be a slow job.

My thoughts too. Not the sharp drop off I think we were all hoping for.

Seems the lockdown is keeping the R below 1, but they don't know how far. If it's 0.9, then it will take a long time for the numbers to fall if each person with it is still infecting 0.9 other people.

Testing and isolation would speed this process up no doubt.


It does make me wonder though - supposing our R number is 0.75 from full lockdown....these countries that are relaxing their lockdown measures, it doesn't take much to push that back up to above 1 again.

 

[czechmate]

Just numbers today............... workload on other stuff has increased...
Confirmed patients: 199
Discharged: 328
Deceased: 178

As is fairly common knowledge these numbers are reported at the various stages that systems confirm the facts.
Confirmed and discharged are (relatively) up to speed barring the time lag between swab & first blood test for inpatients and "clear" test for those being discharged which has to be signed off before they leave.
Deceased can be delayed due to admin and authorisation on our system.
Any statisticians out there can play around to understand if we are on a bumpy plateau, a lumpy downhill or somewhere in between!

Just to clear a point for me please, to see if I understand correctly. If a patient enters hospital, presumably feeling pretty poorly, if after say a few days, he feels well and wants to leave, are you saying he can’t, until he makes a clear test?

 

[czechmate]

Looking at the graphs from all countries , the lockdown has done it's job of avoiding hospital meltdown , however cases aren't dropping by any substantial rate
This is going to be a slow job.

I find myself wondering where all the infections come from now?

 

[bobk]

I find myself wondering where all the infections come from now?

Me too