Thanks for the update,are other causes of death falling or about the same?
The "I`ve got it" thread...
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After a couple bouts of malaria it's hard to tell severity of other stuff.
Felt rubbish for a week lambing, out of breath walking flat fields, Adams apple felt like a golf ball, knackered going to bed. But, we were outdoor lambing in Storms Dennis and Ciara- always going to feel run down with that. I'd think I'd had it but my grandparents would be in the house and they were fine so it couldn't have been
Felt rubbish for a week lambing, out of breath walking flat fields, Adams apple felt like a golf ball, knackered going to bed. But, we were outdoor lambing in Storms Dennis and Ciara- always going to feel run down with that. I'd think I'd had it but my grandparents would be in the house and they were fine so it couldn't have been
Hindsight
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Coronavirus at Smithfield pork plant: The untold story of America's biggest outbreak
Infections spread like wildfire through a pork factory in South Dakota. Here's how it happened.
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Good read. I’m 2hrs. from Sioux Falls btw. My question is why haven’t other packing plants had an outbreak, am I way off the wonder if ownership makes a difference. With the price gouging with the packers that is going on throughout this virus issue I’m sure the workers aren’t getting their bonus. I hope that these (possibly no visa) workers will get the help they need, we need them and they are the parents of the kids that are getting school honour roll in the newspapers, not in the police log. Lots of mud thrown about this shelter at home deal. Kristi our governor asked us to be careful and that’s what we have done, no rules needed, it was pretty much stopped until this... I hope she also sees we’ve sold out to companies that stonewall accountability...
itsalwaysme
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Hi JC as others have said thanks for the updates it's good to see some actual figures, rather than "my mate told me" chinese whispers
Do you know how accurate the test is too say "you've got it" can it provide false positives or is it a definite test. Reason for asking one of my customers, 75 year old had fallen down stairs, taken to hospital, luckily no broken bones just badly bruised, but he was tested and showed positive, kept in for 8 days, but no symptoms, the only think he said his legs were aching the day he fell down the stairs.
Considering his age, if he has had it he's been very lucky.
JC we seem to be hearing quite a few cases where people have gone into hospital with something minor a got the virus while there, has that happened at your hospital that you are aware of.
Inpatients get a PCR (nasal/throat) swab first, that looks for virus "DNA" (technically it is RNA, nucleic acid,but for simplicity!)
Antibody tests (IgM) are best taken some 5-10 days in with an antibody peak (easier to detect) at 21-28 days after infection.
Its important to remember, especially with a novel virus that all tests are fallible to a degree for many reasons, mostly involving human interaction, things like a nasal swab are reliant on picking up (physically) enough virus to be detected.
Our inpatients get both tests and the PCR & IgM are compared, that`s what my bit of the system does, the accuracy with both tests combined is around 98%.
A bit further down the road is IgG, that is the "Patient has had it and has antibodies".
Not that we are aware of and it is difficult to trace, however, we can have a patient come in that is infected but shows no symptoms (asymptomatic) as they are incubating the virus.
That patient can then proceed to become ill or spread the virus to others.
Not all asymptomatic people will get ill, although they can be tested and test positive.
Hence we are testing all of our inpatients to try and prevent that scenario.
We are also reducing risk by keeping the public out with restricted visiting etc.
It`s a complex old game at times but the basics of washing your hands, not touching your face and social distancing are incredibly effective.
Hindsight
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Thank you JCM. Another clear technical explanation. Much appreciated. The complexities I appreciate. In particular the number of Asymptomatics who innocently keep the infection going in a community. I try to keep up but assume at the moment in UK maybe not elsewhere community survey test to establish the level of infection that has already occurred.
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I went to hospital and been in isolation for 10 days since . No symtoms yet
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Looking a bit rough in Philadelphia:
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Hospital delivers bodies to Philly medical examiner in the open back of a pickup truck
Scrawled in black marker on two of the white body bags in the open pickup were the words “Albert Einstein Medical” and “Einstein Med Center.”
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I heard there was a traffic accident and two people died from Coronavirus as well as an older man who died and death certificate said reason of death Coronavirus. Family asked hospital what the reason was since they were told nothing about it and where told it was to keep up their numbers so the funding kept coming. What a joke, it’s really sad if the hospitals choose to get in bed with the news media to fear monger and both milk the cash cow. In the meantime our state health officials cheers we are 75% under anticipated cases.
Numbers again...............
Up to midnight 20th April
Confirmed inpatients: 204
Discharged: 318
Deceased: 165
Bit of an up tick locally speaking but we are holding out and coping with capacity etc.
PPE.................... 8,000+ "UK Companies" have contacted the government to supply PPE , 159 have so far passed the checks to make sure they can actually do it. Several wanted "cash up front" so didn`t progress, especially those that had only been set up in the last week!!
In good news Phase 1 vaccine trial in humans starts in Oxford on Thursday. The patients will be fit, healthy males between 25-30 who will be given the vaccine, and a fair few ££££`s for doing it.
Good luck to them.
**Correct info here: https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about
Up to midnight 20th April
Confirmed inpatients: 204
Discharged: 318
Deceased: 165
Bit of an up tick locally speaking but we are holding out and coping with capacity etc.
PPE.................... 8,000+ "UK Companies" have contacted the government to supply PPE , 159 have so far passed the checks to make sure they can actually do it. Several wanted "cash up front" so didn`t progress, especially those that had only been set up in the last week!!
In good news Phase 1 vaccine trial in humans starts in Oxford on Thursday. The patients will be fit, healthy males between 25-30 who will be given the vaccine, and a fair few ££££`s for doing it.
Good luck to them.
**Correct info here: https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about
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Chae1
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Excuse my ignorance but...
Would it not be better to give them the vaccine, then give them covid19 to test if it works?
Steevo
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This puts an interesting take on the numbers:
Princess Pooper
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A friend of mine dies 10 days ago. is cause of death (he died at home) has yet to be confirmed but he displayed an alarming array of symptoms in the 48 hours beforehand which included gastro-intestinal pain, a high fever, aches, shivering, tiredness, confusion and hallucination before cardiac arrest just before an ambulance arrived. Some of the hallucinations were when he was driving to pick up their food shopping (he was a stubborn old so and so, a retired farmer). He nearly caused an accident on the way back from the food collection and thank goodness, did at that point allow his wife to drive. He died at home few hours later.
Now he had not been tested for Covid 19 before death, but I heard someone on the radio yesterday who had identical symptoms and was surprised on admission to hospital to find he was Covid positive. (He was surprised a he did not have a cough; neither did my friend). Whether they can confirm by post mortem, I don't know, but it is highly likely he had the virus. Now if he did, and he had caused a fatal accident when driving, what would be the cause of death?
The Oxford team seem very confident so much so that they are going to make a million doses before trials are finished
Primarily based on previous vaccine development work, so they will know the odds are on their side, and why it can be fast tracked.
Breakthru
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Lots of people I know have had various symptoms and effects including myself and son etc etc.
The German machines that can be converted to tell if you have had C19 will allow us to get to the 100's of thousands of tests needed to prove how much herd immunity is already here.
What this C19 has done is prove how big a joke our Civil Service is. Every one is blaming govnt but the Humphreys need thinned out drastically.
Who are the only ones not hurting in this debacle, them. Cut their pensions over 12k a year by 30% to pay for this. We paid it in for them so they can share the pain now.
The German machines that can be converted to tell if you have had C19 will allow us to get to the 100's of thousands of tests needed to prove how much herd immunity is already here.
What this C19 has done is prove how big a joke our Civil Service is. Every one is blaming govnt but the Humphreys need thinned out drastically.
Who are the only ones not hurting in this debacle, them. Cut their pensions over 12k a year by 30% to pay for this. We paid it in for them so they can share the pain now.
Sorry missed this, they are actually increasing as the ONS figures are showing, they will also get worse further down the road as folk avoid going to the Doctors etc.