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I agree with you there Roger, he has been misquoted - and for the record even though I don't like the guy, I WOULD trust him to be flexible on a case by case basis in the interim period.
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Reminds me of Del Boy talking to RoderneyHe is a sitting duck for the media or possibly duck l'orange.
Eating in a french restaurant, Del Boy rues he wishes he'd been to school and learnt French. "I mean I can't even say duck a l'orange in french for example"
Pause
Rodney: "It's canard"
Del: "You're telling me"
That's not what he was asked was it,the libtards are giving answers to question that wasn't asked.For what it's worth I hope they do have a inquiry into Russia and America but they go back through the last administration dealing as well but as normal the left don't want that only right wing people do the wrong thing
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Come off it turbo we have seen how dishonest politicians are the Trump administration is no different.
dstudent
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Hold on @JP1 respectfully the media have not come with the ' muslim ban' out of thin air. In his all campain he did say that if elected he would enact ' total and complete shut down of muslims entering the USA', that'a ban.(temporary)
He never objected to those words being used to explain his policy whic was ... wait for it a ' ban on all muslim' entering the country, he went on and on about it. Apparently ' he has muslim friends in high places who called him to say thank you that he is right', you can take off 'muslim' and put mexican, black, women, chinese, disabled, depending on the occassion.
Obviously now that he is pres he realizes that things are a bit complecated ( whilst the rest of the world knew it already), I mean really, is any one in doubt about the fact that a complete ban on muslims was never ever gonna heppen?
The media is just using his own words, he promised, a muslim ban and repeated it for months. He cant cry foul now, what should the media call it ' the previously promised musilm ban is now a partial ban of people of 7 countries, who hsppened to be muslim majority, it s all coincidental' ps as usual blame it all on Obama
RobFZS
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This muslim ban is all rubbish, it's just the obsessives like above, and the media who have blown it out of all proportion, if this is what the next 4 years is going to be, then there's going to be alot of voter apathy at the next election, cry wold too many times and people just switch off, that is when things get dangerous.
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Hold on @JP1 respectfully the media have not come with the ' muslim ban' out of thin air. In his all campain he did say that if elected he would enact ' total and complete shut down of muslims entering the USA', that'a ban.(temporary)
He never objected to those words being used to explain his policy whic was ... wait for it a ' ban on all muslim' entering the country, he went on and on about it. Apparently ' he has muslim friends in high places who called him to say thank you that he is right', you can take off 'muslim' and put mexican, black, women, chinese, disabled, depending on the occassion.
Obviously now that he is pres he realizes that things are a bit complecated ( whilst the rest of the world knew it already), I mean really, is any one in doubt about the fact that a complete ban on muslims was never ever gonna heppen?
The media is just using his own words, he promised, a muslim ban and repeated it for months. He cant cry foul now, what should the media call it ' the previously promised musilm ban is now a partial ban of people of 7 countries, who hsppened to be muslim majority, it s all coincidental' ps as usual blame it all on Obama
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.vo...2017/1/29/14432362/trump-muslim-ban-statement
I cannot stand the guy but I believe in being fair too. If you can be pilloried for just not commenting on what others are saying, that's a slippery slope.
He, I believe, is using a list to temporarily stop entry to the USA from the 7 countries originally listed and suggested by the Obama administration.
I follow the C4 News, BBC R4 and read a wide range of media reflecting many views. I formulate my own opinions. I don't like the guy, I think he's a bully and I think being an isolationist, protectionist in a modern World is a mistake (Brexit or Trump). However, I feel it does a dis-service when sound bytes are selected without the full frame of reference being made. This applies equally to Trump or a pro-Remain politician , say, Ken Clarke.
Please do not confuse my sense of fair play on media as any tacit support for Trump.
dstudent
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I completely understood where u were coming from, my post was not intended as an attack on ur post. If u thought that, my
apologies. I just wanted to point out that he did say he did advocate for a total 'muslim ban' throughout his campaign. And its on tape.
I also try to be fair and I detest the guy,
Ps the list was about country to watch for possible radicalisation, not to ban, that is my understanding.
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Trust me your post was polite and I never saw it as any form of attack, I merely replied.I completly understood were u where coming from, my post was not intended as an attack on ur post. If u thought that, my
apologies. I just wanted to point out that he did say he did advocate for a total 'muslim ban' throughout his campain. And its on tape.
I also try to be fair and I detest the guy,
If you want a proper attack try posting with a Remain slant, especially post vote decision.
I'm just letting them all fall out amongst themselves for what they thought they bought in to and what they think they're going to get
Your missing the temporary part of what he said,I think the exact quote was a temporary ban until we know what the hell is going on in our countryHold on @JP1 respectfully the media have not come with the ' muslim ban' out of thin air. In his all campain he did say that if elected he would enact ' total and complete shut down of muslims entering the USA', that'a ban.(temporary)
He never objected to those words being used to explain his policy whic was ... wait for it a ' ban on all muslim' entering the country, he went on and on about it. Apparently ' he has muslim friends in high places who called him to say thank you that he is right', you can take off 'muslim' and put mexican, black, women, chinese, disabled, depending on the occassion.
Obviously now that he is pres he realizes that things are a bit complecated ( whilst the rest of the world knew it already), I mean really, is any one in doubt about the fact that a complete ban on muslims was never ever gonna heppen?
The media is just using his own words, he promised, a muslim ban and repeated it for months. He cant cry foul now, what should the media call it ' the previously promised musilm ban is now a partial ban of people of 7 countries, who hsppened to be muslim majority, it s all coincidental' ps as usual blame it all on Obama
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.vo...2017/1/29/14432362/trump-muslim-ban-statement
dstudent
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No I dont think so, I put temporary in my post, and I also put the all speech from youtube. My understand of the point made here is , Is the media wrong in calling his executive order a muslim ban? in my opinion no simply because he did advocate for it, he promised it he said it, he had interviews about the ban, and the video attached show that he was comfortable with the words, and that was his intention ( or just a lot of huffing and puffing, because again, it was never gonna happen). that is the only point I am making here, the media has used the same language he has used, what ;s his problem?
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The last part gets ignored.
What is the agenda of all this mostly young male immigration ?
These are not vulnerable people fleeing persecution, these are the most fit, healthy of military fighting ability ... otherwise we would see the elderly, women and children.
Looking forward to seeing Trump get to the bottom of this.
wanton dwarf
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Temporary ban of everyone from 7 countries - which includes all religions and races as I understand it.
I Stand corrected you did mention temporary in your post
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Well speaking as someone who is a pacifist and humanist I am (and you are) lucky not to have been conscripted into the forces and can choose to join military if you wish. I can see why if I was young and in these countries in civil war I might like to get out - to stay alive. My view of the statements from various western politicians and seemingly your sentiment is all young muslim are terrorists - I suspect some a pacifists like just trying to get out and to stay alive.
Looks like Obama been illegally phone tapping trump towers before the election,if true the sh!t will hit the fan now.
Also I see fake tears shummer has helped someone from India I think to be able to stop in the usa, and he has repaid him by being arrested for sex crimes against a 12 year old in ny
Also I see fake tears shummer has helped someone from India I think to be able to stop in the usa, and he has repaid him by being arrested for sex crimes against a 12 year old in ny
I look forward to viewing the evidence on this.
Where did Trump get his evidence from that this is the case?
I Presume from intelligence briefing,as you say it will be intreasting
When do you think we will see this evidence?