The real cost of Brexit?

[Sid]

Heard of a firm selling to the EU who have been told in no uncertain terms if they want to keep dealing with their EU customer that they need to pass on the increased price they are receiving due to currency! The options were reduce price or we will source from closer to home!

 

[RobFZS]

Winners and losers in everything, i doubt those who are now getting a better price for their lamb indirectly because of the brexit vote will be shedding any tears

 

[Henarar]

Blackmail

 

[czechmate]

Blackmail

Trade

 

[czechmate]

Winners and losers in everything, i doubt those who are now getting a better price for their lamb indirectly because of the brexit vote will be shedding any tears

I can't help but think, towards the end of a catastrophic harvest with catastrophic prices, that a lot of cereal growing farmers in France will be looking at the sheep job as pretty tidy, esp with currently a lot of imported lamb

 

[Henarar]

Trade

Blackmail

 

[jockthethistle]

SHEEPMAIL. jtt

 

[GTB]

Works both ways. Renault, Citroen, Manitou etc etc ......

 

[Honest john]

I can't help but think, towards the end of a catastrophic harvest with catastrophic prices, that a lot of cereal growing farmers in France will be looking at the sheep job as pretty tidy, esp with currently a lot of imported lamb

We are just about to start harvest after a trying Spring & early summer & so far yields appear to be back 20% on last year.

What are you finding in France regarding your harvest ave results. @czechmate

We have Blight Fusarium BYDV Yellow Rust & more & France had rain worse than here in England.

 

[czechmate]

About half of average for cereals.
I had small patch if oats which were better than I might have hoped in a good year but the week of trit/wheat flowering, it started raining mid day in Sunday and didn't stop till Friday morning. Ironically the week of the welsh summer (I went to Wales on the Friday).
My main crop is grass though and in old money, when we could finally get on with hay making, we made 120 bales per acre and all around is the same

 

[Honest john]

So if I read you correctly, the 12 ton crops of 2015 are running closer to 6 ton.
OMG.

 

[czechmate]

So if I read you correctly, the 12 ton crops of 2015 are running closer to 6 ton.
OMG.

In the region I live in no one would understand what you mean by 12 tonne crop
10 miles from me is, for here, quite good arable land and yes, those who normally harvest 8 tonne crops have been on 4.
This immediate area is mixed with Maise following grass then a cereal (normally trit) to go back to grass.
Over the last weeks I have seen it a number of times, combine followed by couple of tractors with trailers with optomistic smiles around. You hear or maybe see combine running and running, trailers never move untill the field is finished, combine moves on, half full trailer goes to yard and smiles are all gone
I don't even want to mention what sort of yield my own barley and trit made. Just glad of my patch of oats and chuffed to bits with massive grass crop

 

[rob1]

In the region I live in no one would understand what you mean by 12 tonne crop
10 miles from me is, for here, quite good arable land and yes, those who normally harvest 8 tonne crops have been on 4.
This immediate area is mixed with Maise following grass then a cereal (normally trit) to go back to grass.
Over the last weeks I have seen it a number of times, combine followed by couple of tractors with trailers with optomistic smiles around. You hear or maybe see combine running and running, trailers never move untill the field is finished, combine moves on, half full trailer goes to yard and smiles are all gone
I don't even want to mention what sort of yield my own barley and trit made. Just glad of my patch of oats and chuffed to bits with massive grass crop

So are the prices rising ?

 

[czechmate]

Cereal prices are a world price no?
I don't actually know as all mine goes through my bulls.
There was, as I understand in France, a massive carry over from last year, so I don't suppose there will be much reason for price rises.
Still think lots will be looking at grass, fences and sheep whilst they still have the cash flow to be able.

 

[rob1]

Cereal prices are a world price no?
I don't actually know as all mine goes through my bulls.
There was, as I understand in France, a massive carry over from last year, so I don't suppose there will be much reason for price rises.
Still think lots will be looking at grass, fences and sheep whilst they still have the cash flow to be able.

yes they are world price but if yields are that bad in france and poor here it must have an effect, maybe not until the wheat harvest really gets going though

 

[czechmate]

yes they are world price but if yields are that bad in france and poor here it must have an effect, maybe not until the wheat harvest really gets going though

Uk and France are far to small places to have any effect on world price, surely?

 

[rob1]

Uk and France are far to small places to have any effect on world price, surely?

every little helps though, have heard of parts of the US having worries over excess heat

 

[Muck Spreader]

Uk and France are far to small places to have any effect on world price, surely?

France is the world's forth biggest exporter of wheat, so it may have some effect.

 

[D14]

I am surprised people think anything will change. Since the vote the man that should of taken us out (Cameron) has done a runner and we have ended up with a very pro europe leader. Surely people are starting to see that we won't leave at all. May will soften the whole thing over the next 2 years and turn some of the brexiters view. They will find away around the whole democracy argument of the vote and the UK will without doubt remain in the group of european countries.

Commodity market prices right now are priced due to demand and supply. Not because of the Brexit vote. Currency creates the slight fluctuations but its certainly not brexit that has given us the low prices all round. All the prices will rise anyway as the merchants are trying to buy to put into store, scaremongering to try to get crop off farm as cheaply as possible. Sit tight or if you need cashflow do an uplift deal with the merchant.

 

[Sussex Martin]

Heard of a firm selling to the EU who have been told in no uncertain terms if they want to keep dealing with their EU customer that they need to pass on the increased price they are receiving due to currency! The options were reduce price or we will source from closer to home!

Strange that, I spend circa £300k with a manufacturer in Portugal and pay in Stirling, he has not increased his prices and will not do so until April next year (his words) to enable us to see how the land lies after things settle down. Fluctuations in currency happen all the time and in the past my supplier has had some very good times.