"...the worst disaster and largest capitulation in British history".

[Walterp]

Who says that Singapore has nothing to teach us?

The great calamity of 1942 (the quote is, of course, Churchill's) begat the disdain felt today for the English across much of Asia: overconfidence, under-preparation and an over-weening but unjustified sense of superiority led to an irreparable loss of both power and prestige. Pathos invests every moment of Arthur Percival's confrontation with reality, when he mumbled his surrender to Yamashita after vain attempts at circumlocution and denial.

England became a busted flush right there, right then, in front of the (non-existent) city walls.

No surprise, then, that Yamashita was executed after the Allied victory, on the slightest of evidence.

Today, it is the turn of the Japanese to treat the English with disdain - give them the runaround, and they'll close a factory. It is the Japanese way.

Can we say that the English ruling class have learnt anything since then?

I shake my head; whilst I read of the ongoing administrative shambles of DEFRA's agri-environmental schemes, I anticipate payment of my Glastir Entry and Advanced schemes which, these days, form the backbone of the farm business.

Last year it was paid on 1st February - the first day of the payment window, ending in June - and so this year I telephoned the ever-pleasant helpline in Caernarfon when payment didn't turn up. I was assured that the payment team was working on it, but that if I was anxious for payment I could write in and ask for expedition.

I am always anxious for payment, so I wrote on Wednesday, RPW received it on Friday; they paid it today (Tuesday).

If, in Wales, RPW means 'Rural Payments Wales' then what does DEFRA stand for across the border?

Reading the typical response to the Brexit sheep-flock cull proposal, I know that 'D', at any rate, stands for denial.

I'll leave you with a quote from another English leader; truly, 'nothing has changed'.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Another well written post from Walter, and once again, I haven’t a clue what it means.

 

[ollandroverman]

...And Honda's decision to pull out of European production is all our fault, and nothing to do with their European sales collapsing (by almost half), and the diesel engine production facility looking to be all but redundant?.

 

[DrWazzock]

.......I anticipate payment of my Glastir Entry and Advanced schemes which, these days, form the backbone of the farm business.......

A sad indictment of the system to date IMO, and the reason that I voted for change.

How long can a country pay for public services when once productive industries are now charity cases?

I am glad to say that taxpayers money forms an ever diminishing percentage of my profits. If I did pack up, and the land was left unfarmed or bought at a knockdown price by the forestry commission then nature would thrive without the need for the environmental payments you rely on.

 

[Cowabunga]

...And Honda's decision to pull out of European production is all our fault, and nothing to do with their European sales collapsing (by almost half), and the diesel engine production facility looking to be all but redundant?.

The reason that their Diesel engine production has faltered more than most is Honda's decision to cease CR-V production in the UK. Their biggest model in Europe, made in Europe and more suitable for diesel than any other and they cease UK production of it. Diesel is far less suitable for the Civic and only a small proportion of Civics were ever sold as diesel, whereas the vast majority of CR-V's were sold as diesel versions.
The ending of CR-V production at Swindon was the beginning of the end. Swindon is not the place to exclusively build a fleet-competitive small hatchback exclusively. UK costs are way too high and the possible increase of those costs from brexit is the nail in the factory's coffin. They already had one complete modern factory that has remained empty and redundant for a good number of years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. One of the worse car franchises to have in the UK is Honda. It has a very small range of cars with ever more limited consumer appeal and the brand has been poorly run and in decline for many years. The cars it does offer are of excellent quality but the Civic is not everyone's cup of tea.

I've also mentioned before that Nissan have yet to announce the replacement to the Juke to be built at Sunderland. My own view is that is we do get a hard brexit, the Juke production will cease with no UK built replacement to be made. Most other regions have already replaced the Juke with the Kicks.
In that case I would not be surprised if Nissan, just like Honda, soon announce that the whole Sunderland operation would be shut down for good, plus the battery plant and Calsonic Kensai plant that are on the same large site.

One can only hope that the UK government will come to its senses in the next few weeks and that its not already too late to persuade these massive employers to stay and further invest. At the moment I'm sure that many large manufacturers have decided, behind closed doors, "f**k it, we're out of here! We can't rely on these arrogant clowns in this unreliable shitheap country who don't really want us here anyway".

 

[Billboy1]

Quite what welsh subs has to do with Singapore god only knows.
Great place to visit by the way not much left of fort canning though!

 

[uztrac]

Quite what welsh subs has to do with Singapore god only knows.
Great place to visit by the way not much left of fort canning though!

A Singapore Sling in Raffles,just do it !!!

 

[digger64]

[QUthat's Walterp, post: 5993272, member: 321"]Who says that Singapore has nothing to teach us?

The great calamity of 1942 (the quote is, of course, Churchill's) begat the disdain felt today for the English across much of Asia: overconfidence, under-preparation and an over-weening but unjustified sense of superiority led to an irreparable loss of both power and prestige. Pathos invests every moment of Arthur Percival's confrontation with reality, when he mumbled his surrender to Yamashita after vain attempts at circumlocution and denial.

England became a busted flush right there, right then, in front of the (non-existent) city walls.

No surprise, then, that Yamashita was executed after the Allied victory, on the slightest of evidence.

Today, it is the turn of the Japanese to treat the English with disdain - give them the runaround, and they'll close a factory. It is the Japanese way.

Can we say that the English ruling class have learnt anything since then?

I shake my head; whilst I read of the ongoing administrative shambles of DEFRA's agri-environmental schemes, I anticipate payment of my Glastir Entry and Advanced schemes which, these days, form the backbone of the farm business.

Last year it was paid on 1st February - the first day of the payment window, ending in June - and so this year I telephoned the ever-pleasant helpline in Caernarfon when payment didn't turn up. I was assured that the payment team was working on it, but that if I was anxious for payment I could write in and ask for expedition.

I am always anxious for payment, so I wrote on Wednesday, RPW received it on Friday; they paid it today (Tuesday).

If, in Wales, RPW means 'Rural Payments Wales' then what does DEFRA stand for across the border?

Reading the typical response to the Brexit sheep-flock cull proposal, I know that 'D', at any rate, stands for denial.

I'll leave you with a quote from another English leader; truly, 'nothing has changed'.[/QUOTE]

If thats the backbone of your business , it doesn't say much for the rest of it does it ? If that's typical of most farms in lowland wales (which I don't believe is the case ) then yes I see the similarities with Singapore 1942 .
One day sooner or later food will be more valued by society , with the impending armageddon that you continually predict this could be sooner than you might think .

 

[ollandroverman]

The reason that their Diesel engine production has faltered more than most is Honda's decision to cease CR-V production in the UK. Their biggest model in Europe, made in Europe and more suitable for diesel than any other and they cease UK production of it. Diesel is far less suitable for the Civic and only a small proportion of Civics were ever sold as diesel, whereas the vast majority of CR-V's were sold as diesel versions.
The ending of CR-V production at Swindon was the beginning of the end. Swindon is not the place to exclusively build a fleet-competitive small hatchback exclusively. UK costs are way too high and the possible increase of those costs from brexit is the nail in the factory's coffin. They already had one complete modern factory that has remained empty and redundant for a good number of years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. One of the worse car franchises to have in the UK is Honda. It has a very small range of cars with ever more limited consumer appeal and the brand has been poorly run and in decline for many years. The cars it does offer are of excellent quality but the Civic is not everyone's cup of tea.

I've also mentioned before that Nissan have yet to announce the replacement to the Juke to be built at Sunderland. My own view is that is we do get a hard brexit, the Juke production will cease with no UK built replacement to be made. Most other regions have already replaced the Juke with the Kicks.
In that case I would not be surprised if Nissan, just like Honda, soon announce that the whole Sunderland operation would be shut down for good, plus the battery plant and Calsonic Kensai plant that are on the same large site.

One can only hope that the UK government will come to its senses in the next few weeks and that its not already too late to persuade these massive employers to stay and further invest. At the moment I'm sure that many large manufacturers have decided, behind closed doors, "fudge it, we're out of here! We can't rely on arrogant these clowns in this unreliable shitheap country who don't really want us here anyway".

Yes, the diesel engine line is heavily dependent upon European bound CRVs to put them in, but the fact is total European sales have, in essence, collapsed by half for Honda, and this will have a far far bigger bearing on their business than Brexit ever will.

 

[icanshootwell]

Another well written post from Walter, and once again, I haven’t a clue what it means.

He must be very intelligent to wright consistent drivel like that.

 

[icanshootwell]

The reason that their Diesel engine production has faltered more than most is Honda's decision to cease CR-V production in the UK. Their biggest model in Europe, made in Europe and more suitable for diesel than any other and they cease UK production of it. Diesel is far less suitable for the Civic and only a small proportion of Civics were ever sold as diesel, whereas the vast majority of CR-V's were sold as diesel versions.
The ending of CR-V production at Swindon was the beginning of the end. Swindon is not the place to exclusively build a fleet-competitive small hatchback exclusively. UK costs are way too high and the possible increase of those costs from brexit is the nail in the factory's coffin. They already had one complete modern factory that has remained empty and redundant for a good number of years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. One of the worse car franchises to have in the UK is Honda. It has a very small range of cars with ever more limited consumer appeal and the brand has been poorly run and in decline for many years. The cars it does offer are of excellent quality but the Civic is not everyone's cup of tea.

I've also mentioned before that Nissan have yet to announce the replacement to the Juke to be built at Sunderland. My own view is that is we do get a hard brexit, the Juke production will cease with no UK built replacement to be made. Most other regions have already replaced the Juke with the Kicks.
In that case I would not be surprised if Nissan, just like Honda, soon announce that the whole Sunderland operation would be shut down for good, plus the battery plant and Calsonic Kensai plant that are on the same large site.

One can only hope that the UK government will come to its senses in the next few weeks and that its not already too late to persuade these massive employers to stay and further invest. At the moment I'm sure that many large manufacturers have decided, behind closed doors, "fudge it, we're out of here! We can't rely on arrogant these clowns in this unreliable shitheap country who don't really want us here anyway".

Don,t knock Honda, they seem to be the choice for your retired Solicitor or Bank manager, they are always parked in disability car parks or mother and child parking spaces in supermarkets. I would,t be surprised if Walter has one on the drive.

 

[ollie989898]

 

[ollie989898]

Oh on a separate note, I am certain I read somewhere that labour costs in the UK car manufacturing industry are about 85% of that in Germany. Any surprise the Germans are now making cars in Eastern Europe? Its ok for Germany but not the UK apparently?

 

[milkloss]

So why isn’t this in the politics section? I’m sure if Walt put his mind towards something useful he could actually be quite constructive but this b0llocks is quite frankly a waste of everyone’s time especially his own.

 

[ollie989898]

So why isn’t this in the politics section? I’m sure if Walt put his mind towards something useful he could actually be quite constructive but this b0llocks is quite frankly a waste of everyone’s time especially his own.

It is, basically, high level trolling gift wrapped as intellectual creativity.

 

[Scribus]

Don,t knock Honda, they seem to be the choice for your retired Solicitor or Bank manager, they are always parked in disability car parks or mother and child parking spaces in supermarkets. I would,t be surprised if Walter has one on the drive.

On the bike front you can't knock Honda, they do everything it says on the box, the trouble is that is all that they do. I've always found them dull and soulless despite having all the right figures and reviews.

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes, the diesel engine line is heavily dependent upon European bound CRVs to put them in, but the fact is total European sales have, in essence, collapsed by half for Honda, and this will have a far far bigger bearing on their business than Brexit ever will.

Most of those car sales lost were not British built though. The only model currently built in the UK is the Civic hatchback and the UK is the only supplier of that model variant worldwide and, apparently, they shifted 160,000 of them last year. Over 90% exported, some even to the USA. They will continue building that car, as far as we can tell, until a new model takes over which will be built in Japan. As far as we know, sallloon variants and CRV will still be built around the world including in the USA and Canada. The UK factory though, has lost CR-V [it was the only plant making them in Europe] and, almost uniquely, is being shut down.

 

[Hilly]

The only Honda i need/want is small engines on waker plates and concrete screeds etc, cars n bikes Highly boring for pensioners or shitty civic for boy racers and as for quads pure junk these days.

 

[Martin Holden]

The reason that their Diesel engine production has faltered more than most is Honda's decision to cease CR-V production in the UK. Their biggest model in Europe, made in Europe and more suitable for diesel than any other and they cease UK production of it. Diesel is far less suitable for the Civic and only a small proportion of Civics were ever sold as diesel, whereas the vast majority of CR-V's were sold as diesel versions.
The ending of CR-V production at Swindon was the beginning of the end. Swindon is not the place to exclusively build a fleet-competitive small hatchback exclusively. UK costs are way too high and the possible increase of those costs from brexit is the nail in the factory's coffin. They already had one complete modern factory that has remained empty and redundant for a good number of years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. One of the worse car franchises to have in the UK is Honda. It has a very small range of cars with ever more limited consumer appeal and the brand has been poorly run and in decline for many years. The cars it does offer are of excellent quality but the Civic is not everyone's cup of tea



I've also mentioned before that Nissan have yet to announce the replacement to the Juke to be built at Sunderland. My own view is that is we do get a hard brexit, the Juke production will cease with no UK built replacement to be made. Most other regions have already replaced the Juke with the Kicks.
In that case I would not be surprised if Nissan, just like Honda, soon announce that the whole Sunderland operation would be shut down for good, plus the battery plant and Calsonic Kensai plant that are on the same large site.

One can only hope that the UK government will come to its senses in the next few weeks and that its not already too late to persuade these massive employers to stay and further invest. At the moment I'm sure that many large manufacturers have decided, behind closed doors, "fudge it, we're out of here! We can't rely on arrogant these clowns in this unreliable shitheap country who don't really want us here anyway".

Another well written post from Walter, and once again, I haven’t a clue what it means.

You’ve stolen my reply! Walt can make sense sometimes but I think this ones “a bit left of field” and I for one are on the right hand side.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Walter, have you had all your single payment? I understand that Glastir is not paid before the single and I only have had the 80% loan up to now.