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ladycrofter

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Well I did and there's f**k all. Just a lot of use of the word "potential".
There's also a list of potential crops and up here it includes loganberries (or whatever the f**k they're called) and . . . that's about it.

They are so f****** stupid one of the crops they suggest is growing birch and alder for timber which of course will then dry the peat bog up, what a bunch of w******.
 

PSQ

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Arable Farmer
I will add, that grouse shooting also benefits the birds that really need our help.
Which is pretty much the ethos of the excellent Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust
I don’t even shoot, but as a life member I really appreciate their in depth research into wildlife conservation.
 

killie_cowboy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
These bloody hippies truly haven't a clue and this just proves it. Anybody remotely involved knows that modern agriculture on undrained bog or wetlands is a messy torture if not impossible. Forestry much the same, though as mentioned, planting trees dries out the bloody ground anyway. And those boys digging out drains by hand 200 years ago, well, they must just have been doing it for a laugh, eh?
 
Well I did and there's f**k all. Just a lot of use of the word "potential".
There's also a list of potential crops and up here it includes loganberries (or whatever the f**k they're called) and . . . that's about it.

They are so f****** stupid one of the crops they suggest is growing birch and alder for timber which of course will then dry the peat bog up, what a bunch of w******.

Birch and alder- to hell with that for an idea. If you're going to initiate afforestation in an area, it needs to be done properly and with careful thought because it is irreversible in ecological terms.
 

yoki

Member
There's also a list of potential crops and up here it includes loganberries (or whatever the f**k they're called) and . . . that's about it.
Pretty sad that they're not even aware that there's a much improved and much more modern version of the Loganberry, which has been developed in Scotland of all places.


I'm pretty in to this sort of thing and I don't even waste my time with Loganberries!
 
Not the grouse so much though.

I suspect if you look at quarry species as a whole -the ones that are bred and released I mean- that their population benefits from shooting because only a fraction of them are ever shot. The remainder disappear off into the fabric of the landscape. I admit this is rather different for Grouse, though but much care is taken to maintain the landscape in such a way that benefits them.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
I suspect if you look at quarry species as a whole -the ones that are bred and released I mean- that their population benefits from shooting because only a fraction of them are ever shot. The remainder disappear off into the fabric of the landscape. I admit this is rather different for Grouse, though but much care is taken to maintain the landscape in such a way that benefits them.
Twas a sarcastic comment.
 

ladycrofter

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
So I read more. Lots of "could". Most references are tropical. Indonesian peatlands, a great model for the Highlands eh?

However, we can all breathe a sigh of relief that sphagnum moss can be "grown and harvested" for orchid substrate. A booming market that. Apparently we can't get people to pick peas off the vine here so I'm sure they'll be happy to turn up in the middle of a bog in summer with clouds of midges and those incessant circling headflies, to rake sphagnum moss off heather 🤣🤬.

I'm just off to my orchid house to give the plants the good news 🏵️ Wee man is smiling already 🤣.
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(Courtesy of Glasgow Botanic Garden, worth a visit😀)
 

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