Thistles in a new ley

[bobk]

Just had a look and thistlex is a bit late and not recommended for new leys , any suggestions ?

They are a perfect size for spraying and I don't want to check the grass spraying them next spring

 

[Cows 'n grass]

How big are the thistles?

Leystar will probably knock them back but they may need a follow up treatment next year.

 

[bobk]

How big are the thistles?

Leystar will probably knock them back but they may need a follow up treatment next year.

Quite big , flat but wide 6 or 8 inches

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Quite big , flat but wide 6 or 8 inches

Get the slasher out

 

[Lazy Eric]

Too late this year I’d say.. mid April next year the spray will be very effective.

 

[bobk]

Get the slasher out

I knew your method would involve manual labour

 

[neilo]

Just had a look and thistlex is a bit late and not recommended for new leys , any suggestions ?

They are a perfect size for spraying and I don't want to check the grass spraying them next spring

I assume there’s no clover if you’re considering Thistlex? I’d be tempted to go with that, if there are no other blw’s or clover.

However, if you’ve had the frosts we’ve had here the last couple of mornings, they will have stopped growing now and unlikely to take any chemical up i’d Have thought. Leave until the Spring, when you can obey the label with the Thistlex.?

 

[Agrivator]

MCPB or equivalent (24DB?) will be very effective now on what I presume are burr thistles at the big rosette stage. Spot spray at normal rates or blanket spray at half rate and keep you fingers crossed that the young grass won't suffer too much.

 

[Agrispeed]

I've had excellent results with just a topper, go over once they are flowering and then once they get going again and the results are remarkable!

 

[spin cycle]

I've had excellent results with just a topper, go over once they are flowering and then once they get going again and the results are remarkable!

percieved wisdom is cut after 1st july then again just before frosts.....op....either top or try vivendi perhaps = cheap

 

[JoeFo]

I did a key with typhon, ryegrass, plantain and clover. Thistles and nettles came back strong, any suggestions for spraying in the spring?

 

[DRC]

percieved wisdom is cut after 1st july then again just before frosts.....op....either top or try vivendi perhaps = cheap

Cut a thistle in June ,it’ll grow back soon.
Cut a thistle in July ,it’ll wither and die.

 

[spin cycle]

Cut a thistle in June ,it’ll grow back soon.
Cut a thistle in July ,it’ll wither and die.

cut in may...back next day

 

[neilo]

cut in may...back next day

Spray the fecker....do the job properly.

 

[Goweresque]

The only thing worth spraying thistles with is Thistlex and thats not got a label recommendation for new leys. Anything else that has (such as MCPA/2,4D) won't kill them, just burn them off for a while. So even if it worked fine this late they'd still be back next spring so you'd be back to square one.

 

[Fendt65]

cut in may...back next day

Cut a thistle in November,the rest I’m sorry I can’t remember

 

[Agrivator]

The only thing worth spraying thistles with is Thistlex and thats not got a label recommendation for new leys. Anything else that has (such as MCPA/2,4D) won't kill them, just burn them off for a while. So even if it worked fine this late they'd still be back next spring so you'd be back to square one.

I think you might be referring to perennial creeping thistle. The OP seemed to be describing biennial burr thistle which is much easier to control. It is very susceptible to hormone weedkillers at all stages of growth. In fact you can kill them by peeing on them - although it takes an awful long time to cover the whole field.

 

[bobk]

I think you might be referring to perennial creeping thistle. The OP seemed to be describing biennial burr thistle which is much easier to control. It is very susceptible to hormone weedkillers at all stages of growth. In fact you can kill them by peeing on them - although it takes an awful long time to cover the whole field.

Did them with some spray left in the sprayer , 10g biplay 1 ltr fluroxphr , bit low but we'll see

 

[DRC]

Did them with some spray left in the sprayer , 10g biplay 1 ltr fluroxphr , bit low but we'll see

You travelled ok then

 

[betweenthelines]

I've had excellent results with just a topper, go over once they are flowering and then once they get going again and the results are remarkable!

What? Control weeds without chemicals? Is that even possible? Next youll be saying theres no need to spray cereals with Roundup before cutting, or that you can use a plough WITHOUT using a sprayer first? Burn him, burn him, burn the heretic!