Timber frame house

[Turra farmer]

I'll let you know in 12 months time.

Ours should be arriving in 3 weeks time.

As long as founds are in to the manufacturers base plate layout , which may differ slightly to architects drawing you won't have a problem

 

[ffukedfarmer]

As long as founds are in to the manufacturers base plate layout , which may differ slightly to architects drawing you won't have a problem

Concrete should be arriving tomorrow or Friday. The groundworkers look to be doing a good job so far.The building firms project manager came out to see the groundworkers on Monday and seems happy.

 

[Turra farmer]

That's good , as having base level and correct is vital , you should grab their laser and check levels , or pull a diagonal to check , as it's quite common for joiners to have to fix builders blunders ,

 

[S J H]

Just for anyone else's interest.

Had a price for £24k for timber frame and attic trusses, kit only,

Very rough calcs would be-
Concrete blocks- £3000
Timber first floor, attic trusses and first timber stud walls- £8000

I can't really see the benefit. The kit is made from 38x140 cls timber with 9mm Osb cladding.

I'll try and price up to build the kit myself on site, but I think I could end up causing myself more stress than it's worth.

 

[multi power]

Just for anyone else's interest.

Had a price for £24k for timber frame and attic trusses, kit only,

Very rough calcs would be-
Concrete blocks- £3000
Timber first floor, attic trusses and first timber stud walls- £8000

I can't really see the benefit. The kit is made from 38x140 cls timber with 9mm Osb cladding.

I'll try and price up to build the kit myself on site, but I think I could end up causing myself more stress than it's worth.

So that's all the timber in the house, floors etc? Just need outer skin and roof tiles

 

[S J H]

So that's all the timber in the house, floors etc? Just need outer skin and roof tiles

Yes, seems a lot of money for what it is though, still waiting for another quote, I think they've included a garage that is on the plans, but we won't go ahead with that until we have the house up.

 

[multi power]

Yes, seems a lot of money for what it is though, still waiting for another quote, I think they've included a garage that is on the plans, but we won't go ahead with that until we have the house up.

I started some rough sums and would need 2500 blocks for what I want, I think timber is getting dear, I made a work bench recently, steel cost less than the timber

 

[spikeislander]

Don't forget the insulation! It's bleeding expensive.

 

[spikeislander]

Sorry your probably just comparing like for like on the structure.

 

[S J H]

Don't forget the insulation! It's bleeding expensive.

Sorry your probably just comparing like for like on the structure.

That's the trouble @spikeislander , £25k is 1/5 of the budget, and it's only the frame, I don't think it's going to save anything, and I'll end up with a better built house out of blocks.

Are you in yet?!

 

[Forever Fendt]

Just for anyone else's interest.

Had a price for £24k for timber frame and attic trusses, kit only,

Very rough calcs would be-
Concrete blocks- £3000
Timber first floor, attic trusses and first timber stud walls- £8000

I can't really see the benefit. The kit is made from 38x140 cls timber with 9mm Osb cladding.

I'll try and price up to build the kit myself on site, but I think I could end up causing myself more stress than it's worth.

I am not sure on the size of house you are building but the floor joists and trusses look expensive , i think you will go blockwork myself

 

[mo!]

That's the trouble @spikeislander , £25k is 1/5 of the budget, and it's only the frame, I don't think it's going to save anything, and I'll end up with a better built house out of blocks.

Are you in yet?!

With the timber frame the insulation goes into the frame, whereas a block construction it goes next to the frame so your wall thickness is greater. Planning permission is given on the external dimensions so a block house will be smaller inside. Blocks also take longer to warm up (but also slower to cool down) so if you want the house to warm up quicker then go timber. If you are in the house all day then it makes no difference. It is also easier to seal up a timber house.

 

[Forever Fendt]

With the timber frame the insulation goes into the frame, whereas a block construction it goes next to the frame so your wall thickness is greater. Planning permission is given on the external dimensions so a block house will be smaller inside. Blocks also take longer to warm up (but also slower to cool down) so if you want the house to warm up quicker then go timber. If you are in the house all day then it makes no difference. It is also easier to seal up a timber house.

i think you may need the plasterboard with the insulation bonded on the back over the stud work is this correct ?

 

[S J H]

With the timber frame the insulation goes into the frame, whereas a block construction it goes next to the frame so your wall thickness is greater. Planning permission is given on the external dimensions so a block house will be smaller inside. Blocks also take longer to warm up (but also slower to cool down) so if you want the house to warm up quicker then go timber. If you are in the house all day then it makes no difference. It is also easier to seal up a timber house.

Yes I see what you mean, with put in planning detail to allow for block, so the internal dimensions have been set by the size I wanted. But as you say we could gain more with timber frame.

 

[S J H]

I am not sure on the size of house you are building but the floor joists and trusses look expensive , i think you will go blockwork myself

I just allowed plenty without working it properly. Attic trusses were £4.5k from one local firm, they're probably the dearest around.

The other problem with block work was the plasterboard, should I get it rendered and plastered or just stick plasterboard?

 

[spikeislander]

That's the trouble @spikeislander , £25k is 1/5 of the budget, and it's only the frame, I don't think it's going to save anything, and I'll end up with a better built house out of blocks.

Are you in yet?!

No not yet got a wait on the plasterers but nearly ready for them. Good timing though as farm work is kicking off so the it might pause for a few weeks.
Then when dried up we can do drainage etc and cladding on. Might roughly landscape and get some grass in so it's got a start.

 

[spikeislander]

I think if we push we could make it pre harvest but still got a fair list of jobs on it. The kitchen and bathrooms etc will take time and flooring.

 

[mo!]

i think you may need the plasterboard with the insulation bonded on the back over the stud work is this correct ?

Depends on how much insulation you want. The company we're looking at will give 0.2u without any extra insulation but the sky is the limit. We will have a 25mm batten to give a service space so we may fill that with insulation, though it does mean that the wiring would have to be upspecced.

 

[Forever Fendt]

I just allowed plenty without working it properly. Attic trusses were £4.5k from one local firm, they're probably the dearest around.

The other problem with block work was the plasterboard, should I get it rendered and plastered or just stick plasterboard?

Dot and dab the boards on block walls ,make sure the block layers fill the joints fully as this can cause air leeks when you come to do the air test for building regs

 

[multi power]

Does the insulation not just go in the cavity with block build?