Tine direct seeding

[Bman]

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole the other day on YouTube, it seems in other parts of the world where they direct sow a lot of cereals (Canada Australia) they seem to use manly tine drills and move a bit of soil. My question is are disc drills great in theory but rubbish in practice or just to expensive and require more maintenance. And is this why a lot of UK made drills are tine drills?

 

[Fish]

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole the other day on YouTube, it seems in other parts of the world where they direct sow a lot of cereals (Canada Australia) they seem to use manly tine drills and move a bit of soil. My question is are disc drills great in theory but rubbish in practice or just to expensive and require more maintenance. And is this why a lot of UK made drills are tine drills?

I guess it depends on what you are trying to achieve and the crop residue of the preceding crop.

It's just horses for courses, I run both a disc and a tine drill.

Left to right
Wheat into chopped bean trash-tine
Wheat into chopped Spring oat trash-tine
Wheat into chopped pea trash-disc
W Barley into chopped wheat trash-disc
Wheat into chopped linseed trash-disc.

If you wanna try and drill through chopped linseed/peas with a tine be my guest, you might try once but you won't try a second time.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

I guess it depends on what you are trying to achieve and the crop residue of the preceding crop.

It's just horses for courses, I run both a disc and a tine drill.

Left to right
Wheat into chopped bean trash-tine
Wheat into chopped Spring oat trash-tine
Wheat into chopped pea trash-disc
W Barley into chopped wheat trash-disc
Wheat into chopped linseed trash-disc.

If you wanna try and drill through chopped linseed/peas with a tine be my guest, you might try once but you won't try a second time.

Your winter barley into wheat looking well, long stubble appears to be the key.

 

[Fish]

Your winter barley into wheat looking well, long stubble appears to be the key.

Thank you, and as you say long stubble is the key, my wife ran the combine in that field and always leaves a long stubble, she's rubbish at cutting peas how ever

 

[alomy75]

I guess it depends on what you are trying to achieve and the crop residue of the preceding crop.

It's just horses for courses, I run both a disc and a tine drill.

Left to right
Wheat into chopped bean trash-tine
Wheat into chopped Spring oat trash-tine
Wheat into chopped pea trash-disc
W Barley into chopped wheat trash-disc
Wheat into chopped linseed trash-disc.

If you wanna try and drill through chopped linseed/peas with a tine be my guest, you might try once but you won't try a second time.

Chopped linseed straw?! You’re brave! I saw a neighbour do that once; it was like 20 acres of candy floss too much area to burn?

 

[clbarclay]

I actually tine drilled through the chopped linseed stubbles here last autumn. I did started with the disc drill, but the soil was just far too sticky for it at the time.

Things like the linseed being rather short last year, it had plenty of time after being sprayed off before combining and making sure the chopper blades are fresh all helped though.

I tried the same tine drill into a field of linseed stubbles that had been cut short, swathed, baled without strings and then burnt. There were enough long linseed straws which the baler had missed that it didn't manage a single bout. The ground was fairly dry that time too.

 

[Badshot]

No bother here with chopped linseed straw, disc or tine.
With the massive push towards emission reduction, doing a load of cultivation to enable a seed drill to work really does seem to be somewhat questionable.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Cultivation enables broadcasting which gives more comprehensive ground cover of new plants and saves spending more money on expensive to run drills .
One less new toy day,

 

[clbarclay]

I have a neighbour that was broadcasting all there cereals. That was in a min till system though, with the cost of cultivation to factor into it.

 

[puntabrava]

Velcourt were out today drilling by the A303 with a twin hopper Horsch tined drill, I have not seen it before being used on the estate, whether it is new and a move away from the quadtrac cultivation and then drill norm for them. It has taken them a long time to move to direct approach.