Tractor chips

[twizz]

Are the plug and play chips any good ( which is best ) or is it better to remap it.
Tia

 

[Gapples]

If you must then get them remapped, a chip just tricks the ECU into giving say 25% more fuel than it should be.

 

[Mike6120]

Anything modern is better to remap.... Mapping out emmmiission control is more important in modern engines that simply upping the power, which is what a chip does.

 

[Vernon]

Just buy a big enough tractor. You won’t regret it in the long run.

 

[colhonk]

Steinbauer

 

[wold-topper]

I provide tuning boxes and remap so can provide details on both solutions
To be honest it would be easier to give advice if I knew the model you are looking to tune

 

[Jim B]

As I understand, a Steinbauer adjusts the duration and timing of injectors to give the power increase, vaguely similar to a remap?

It does not just increase the common rail pressure like the cheaper tuning modules, nor give the error codes like the cheaper ones.

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

Steinbauer

+1 for this. Their technology is second to none in the software

 

[ollandroverman]

As I understand, a Steinbauer adjusts the duration and timing of injectors to give the power increase, vaguely similar to a remap?

It does not just increase the common rail pressure like the cheaper tuning modules, nor give the error codes like the cheaper ones.

I believe Steinbauer (who are the only tuning box makers I would let near my tractor) do indeed increase the injection duration, but do not change the injection timing parameters.

Do be very very careful with who you chose. A poor tuning box, and especially a poor remap, can and will damage your engine.
There are many a tales of a localish tuning firm causing melted pistons due to their work resulting in too high EGT.

My money... Derv doctor remap and nobody else.

 

[Brisel]

Remap it if you must.

My predecessor bought cheap plug & play chips that told the injection pump the fuel was ultra hot. 3 tractors done. 1 engine rebuild, 1 new hydro transmission, 3 sets of injectors, 7 turbos, 5 exhaust manifolds. The main cultivations tractor drank 2.5 tanks of fuel/day, smoked like an old Ford and eventually shat its engine apart. DON'T DO IT!

 

[YELROM]

Remap it if you must.

My predecessor bought cheap plug & play chips that told the injection pump the fuel was ultra hot. 3 tractors done. 1 engine rebuild, 1 new hydro transmission, 3 sets of injectors, 7 turbos, 5 exhaust manifolds. The main cultivations tractor drank 2.5 tanks of fuel/day, smoked like an old Ford and eventually shat its engine apart. DON'T DO IT!

I assume your quote is not used by the chip firm that they came from

 

[balerman]

Yep re map if you must,or a Steinbauer chip if determined to do it that way.Best advice is leave it alone and buy the right size tractor to start with,it will work out cheaper in the long run.

 

[barleybasher]

I'm not convinced that these chips are a good idea.

If you kill the torque curve at the expense of peak power I don't think it's a good thing.

You might end up with a peakier engine that does not lug as well and just dies off, I've seen this happen to a combine when it was chipped.

Some machines it's probably OK but others you have to think of the cooling requirements, heat generated etc and how much hotter things might run and will that be of detriment to the long term life of components.

 

[njneer]

I'm not convinced that these chips are a good idea.

If you kill the torque curve at the expense of peak power I don't think it's a good thing.

You might end up with a peakier engine that does not lug as well and just dies off, I've seen this happen to a combine when it was chipped.

Some machines it's probably OK but others you have to think of the cooling requirements, heat generated etc and how much hotter things might run and will that be of detriment to the long term life of components.

That's all well and good but how do the twin beacon and CB Ariel brigade survive in the harsh and. brutal world of Young Farmers down the pub bar when they have to brag about the "HP at the shaft" they probably never fully utilise to their mates .
If you looked at a chart of the hours a standard tractor clocks up in its lifetime and the amount of the available standard HP that is efficiently utilised to its maximum you would not consider chipping or mapping as being either economical or practical most likely you would be looking at economising and downsizing slightly.
But again then they couldnt partake in the d##k measuring down the local.

 

[INUWTH]

In my opinion you should buy the right sized tractor in the first place, many an engine and a transmission been destroyed by chipping and re-mapping, not to mention the whole load of ad-blue faults that it can create.

 

[Dragon]

Just buy a big enough tractor. You won’t regret it in the long run.

Years ago we had a fiat 88/94 approx 100hp.
It woukd handle a 5 furrow reversible plough how big a tractor would you need today?

 

[Mursal]

250HP to spread lime, with a 6T spreader .............
And they can't make contracting pay

 

[TripleSix]

Just get an MX135 and get the remap spanner on it.....

 

[ollandroverman]

Just get an MX135 and get the remap spanner on it.....

It is alleged that there is only a small percentage of New Holland TMs that have NOT had a spanner tune up.

 

[hang-on]

It is alleged that there is only a small percentage of New Holland TMs that have NOT had a spanner tune up.

I’d be fairly convinced that they are few and far between!! Lol