Tractor sales table

[FonterraFarmer]

Do not argue with this man
20 years of riding a TRX400, he'll have arms that'll break you like a twig[emoji123] [emoji123] must say my SxS is hardly ever used in favour of the CTX, unless the rain is driving in

The CTX is used sun, rain or snow, just done 50,000km, now my brother reckons it should be right for another 50,000km!

 

[hally]

Plenty of 700 have had engine trouble as well,drinking far too much oil

400 engines around here

 

[james ds]

400 engines around here

That's 4,7,8 and 9 s , there's not much left now .

 

[cfr1964]

That's 4,7,8 and 9 s , there's not much left now .

And as far as I'm aware, you don't own any of them
So you'll have no need to worry about it

 

[james ds]

And as far as I'm aware, you don't own any of them
So you'll have no need to worry about it

Your 100% right , I refuse to buy a machine with a crap engine .

 

[yorkie]

only thing wrong with fendt,dealers need to speak to Germany to fix them if it is not some thing that stands out or they throw parts at them until they fix it or make it worse,one of main reasons there are as many jd about they are now the simple on to mend due to amount about

 

[james ds]

only thing wrong with fendt,dealers need to speak to Germany to fix them if it is not some thing that stands out or they throw parts at them until they fix it or make it worse,one of main reasons there are as many jd about they are now the simple on to mend due to amount about

You can fix JD s cheaper now as well , Qpt tractor parts are selling a lot of engine kits for JD 30 series , the rep was telling me over the weekend , he also sells the JD door glass for £ 50 to the dealers , do they mark it up much .

 

[cfr1964]

Your 100% right , I refuse to buy a machine with a crap engine .

You're prepared to lower yourself to talk about them though
Funny thing about these Fendt engine problems is, just like Deere head gaskets and porous Fords. Owners and operators of competitive makes always seem to have more to say than the owners of the actual machines
Who knows though maybe AGCO will decide they want a REALLY good engine and start fitting FPT to everything

 

[james ds]

You're prepared to lower yourself to talk about them though
Funny thing about these Fendt engine problems is, just like Deere head gaskets and porous Fords. Owners and operators of competitive makes always seem to have more to say than the owners of the actual machines
Who knows though maybe AGCO will decide they want a REALLY good engine and start fitting FPT to everything

A lot of owners don't want people to know that their expensive tractor gave expensive trouble .

 

[holywell farmer]

A lot of owners don't want people to know that their expensive tractor gave expensive trouble .

James if fell out favour with Valtra is there another make you would run if any ?

 

[james ds]

James if fell out favour with Valtra is there another make you would run if any ?

I'd think bad of owning a tractor without a sisu engine .

 

[holywell farmer]

I'd think bad of owning a tractor without a sisu engine .

John Deere no sisu in them ,,,,,,,

 

[cfr1964]

A lot of owners don't want people to know that their expensive tractor gave expensive trouble .

Might be some truth in that, but I don't know about where you are but round here it's kinda hard to keep secrets like that, so you're as well not to bother
Some owners may also just accept that all brands have issues at some point and that it's the aftersales service from the manufacturer and dealer that really count
This is something that Deere and Claas seem to be especially good at

 

[yorkie]

Might be some truth in that, but I don't know about where you are but round here it's kinda hard to keep secrets like that, so you're as well not to bother
Some owners may also just accept that all brands have issues at some point and that it's the aftersales service from the manufacturer and dealer that really count
This is something that Deere and Claas seem to be especially good at

it doesn't help when they know your number and don't answer in service so you have to go through sales to get there and block your number

 

[cfr1964]

it doesn't help when they know your number and don't answer in service so you have to go through sales to get there and block your number

That doesn't sound good
What are "they " selling?

 

[hally]

You're prepared to lower yourself to talk about them though
Funny thing about these Fendt engine problems is, just like Deere head gaskets and porous Fords. Owners and operators of competitive makes always seem to have more to say than the owners of the actual machines
Who knows though maybe AGCO will decide they want a REALLY good engine and start fitting FPT to everything

I own one that was replaced, my brother in law the same. Is that enough owner testimony for you

 

[icanshootwell]

Kubota could be 1 to watch then

Kubuta, will do ok for a few years, its only when farmers start trading them back in 3 to 5 years time, the value of them, wont seem so attractive

 

[icanshootwell]

Blimey JD must be quaking in their boots because they are only 2960 units ahead of Fendt.....with a 30%+ market share against 5.7%
Interestingly the market has dropped by around 10%.........JD sales have fallen by 8.5% and Fendt have dropped by 15%.
In contrast Kubota have achieved sales growth of close to 28%., so watch this space.
In all honesty Fendt will always be a "Premium Brand" as you call it, but I will be surprised if they ever achieve more than 10 or 12%, because its not in their interest. The law of supply and demand says that as more second hand of a particular brand comes onto the market that resale values will fall.......then the "attraction" of buying something that is a premium price over its main stream competitors becomes less attractive, and unjustifiable.

We all know jd have the lions share, but the tide is shifting a little, Dealerships are being put under enormous pressure to keep sales up to a curtain level, I dont think its sustainable, Its nice to see other brands about anyway.

 

[yorkie]

That doesn't sound good
What are "they " selling?

the ones that cost the most and are not supposed to break down

 

[james ds]

the ones that cost the most and are not supposed to break down

And use very little fuel , I know a few that use no fuel a lot of the time .