Two positively sinister things, an ocean apart...

[stroller]

Three immediate family members have had TIAs afterwards, two after the booster, one after the second, but of course its nothing to do with the vaccine

 

[Muck Spreader]

Three immediate family members have had TIAs afterwards, two after the booster, one after the second, but of course its nothing to do with the vaccine

You are saying that 3 of your family had a mini-stroke after vaccination!

 

[essex man]

Its interesting that there's quite a lot of people who had one jab but have absolutely refused to have a second, the proportion stuck at one jab has settled down to a pretty consistent %. Its unlikely that you'd change your mind between the jabs unless something happened to make you change your mind, so to me that suggests all those who refused the second one had a nasty reaction to the first one. Thats about 5-6% of the entire adult population having had a sufficiently bad adverse reaction to the vaccines to refuse a second shot, or indeed be medically advised not to take a second one.

Indeed, one and two, sold as a job lot, hard to imagine not going to the second unless first has been a problem.
Jab 3 will not have the job lot angle plus additional refusers from adverse events.
When any line flattens at 50% it may be enough to trigger the end.
Jab 3/4/5?

 

[essex man]

You are saying that 3 of your family had a mini-stroke after vaccination!

It's not unusual

 

[stroller]

You are saying that 3 of your family had a mini-stroke after vaccination!

Yes

 

[essex man]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1040076/Technical_Briefing_31.pdf

 

[Muck Spreader]

It's not unusual

Yes it is, and it needs medical attention as around one third will go on to have a major stroke within a year without medical intervention.

 

[primmiemoo]

Three immediate family members have had TIAs afterwards, two after the booster, one after the second, but of course its nothing to do with the vaccine

The likelihood is it wasn't, although obviously the TIAs happened at around the same time as the vaccinations.

One of my relatives had a TIA the day after a meal at a restaurant. Rellie was of an age where TIAs are more likely, and had an underlying health problem that is associated with higher risk of TIAs.

Hope your relatives are on the mend, stroller.

 

[primmiemoo]

It's not unusual

Just check that with your doctor and scientist friends. TIAs are not a side effect of vaccination.

 

[essex man]

Just check that with your doctor and scientist friends. TIAs are not a side effect of vaccination.

I'm afraid they are

 

[primmiemoo]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1040076/Technical_Briefing_31.pdf

Yes, Omicron is sufficiency different for immunity via AZ to need a booster. That's why boosters are important.

But a group of rogues using an advertising agency to spread lies about vaccines is what you choose to believe.

 

[primmiemoo]

I'm afraid they are

Then kindly name names.

 

[stroller]

Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action​

 

[essex man]

Yes, Omicron is sufficiency different for immunity via AZ to need a booster. That's why boosters are important.

But a group of rogues using an advertising agency to spread lies about vaccines is what you choose to believe.

I come up with own ideas thanks, I get sent links all the time, some of them I post on here.
If you disagree with data, then perhaps tell me which?

 

[Mr Mackay]

It's not unusual

Thanks Tom Jones

 

[primmiemoo]

I come up with own ideas thanks, I get sent links all the time, some of them I post on here.
If you disagree with data, then perhaps tell me which?

It's the unprofessional way that data gets presented that's a niggle. A pandemic isn't a game, we both agree it is a serious matter.
Links pop up all over the place, often having been skewed by bad interpretation along the way, as you'll know, and as we all know.

 

[primmiemoo]

Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action​

Sympathies, @stroller. It must have felt just like buses.

 

[Guleesh]

It's the unprofessional way that data gets presented that's a niggle. A pandemic isn't a game, we both agree it is a serious matter.
Links pop up all over the place, often having been skewed by bad interpretation along the way, as you'll know, and as we all know.

Why can't you apply this logic to both sides of the debate though?

 

[primmiemoo]

Why can't you apply this logic to both sides of the debate though?

Something to do with killer viruses not understanding politics, academic one-upmanship, basic mathematical incompetence, and the actions of people with personality disorders. Some Most of the "alternative viewpoint" stuff online is riddled with it, and is quite rightly debunked.

 

[Guleesh]

Something to do with killer viruses not understanding politics, academic one-upmanship, basic mathematical incompetence, and the actions of people with personality disorders. Some Most of the "alternative viewpoint" stuff online is riddled with it, and is quite rightly debunked.

Can you not see that all the reasons you've listed apply to both sides that have opposing opinions as to what extent we need to disrupt our lives for covid? Also why 'killer' virus? do you talk about killer cars, killer foods, killer alcohol, killer sunlight, killer vaccines etc? Why the dramatics? We're all going to die, we just have different opinions as to how we want to live before we do.