- Location
- East Ayrshire
I always thought under employment law that if you had asked for the holidays and been refused the employer legally had no option but to pay you for them. I'd imagine if you haven't asked then it's more down to goodwill.
Unused holiday entitlements
- Thread starter Cowpoke82
- Start date
Not being able too grasp that holidays are still yours and money your entitled too because your employed regardless of how well paid your salary is idiotic behaviour imoBit harsh but they are working for free if they don't take them and don't get them paid out.
I've no problem with it if they are happy with the situation, starting a thread may suggest they are not.
Place I worked once would let you carry 10 days over max or you could sell as many days holiday as you wanted back too the company at Christmas… quite a few people used too sell there holidays back at Christmas for a bit of a bonus.. you could also buy an extra 10 days holiday a year if you wanted also which I thought was good..
know a chap that carried 10 over too make 38 days holiday then bought another 10 days too make 48 days then with weekends added in had 3 months in Australia
I’m my own worst enemy I don’t take a lot of holiday , I’ve worked twelve months without a day off more than once , I enjoy my job and recently I had a bereavement and I’ve kinda just buried myself in my work
Why bother posting if your not fussed, if your happy with your lot then that's good. As an employers point of view I would be wanting to pay you for the days due if you don't want to take them.
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- Limousin/Charentes toad land
good on you.
if you don’t want your holiday, your boss « can’t » pay the days what abouts lambs/freezer load of beef… whatever he produces?
edit… btw, do you want a job?
- Location
- South West
Sounds like your boss problem that your a lone worker with no cover, not yours. More fool you for not taking the days knowing you won’t be paid for them and only just addressing it.
if I were you I’d book 10 days that you think you might want off first day back in the new year on the calendar. That leaves you some to take shorter notice as you want but gives you a couple of weeks already booked to go on holiday or just chill and do jobs at home!
BTW, all this ‘can’t pay you out’ of the days holiday is rubbish, your boss can do it very easily, not paying out is a case by case employer by employer basis. so as much as you think he’s amazing letting you have bits and pieces off here and there and a work truck, I’d say he’s not as amazing as you think… if he thought as much of you as you clearly do him and his buisness he would say no problem I’ll pay you out…
Netherfield
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- Location
- West Yorkshire
And if you've got work truck he should be adjusting your pay because it's a benefit.
And if he isn't it might come back and bite you both in the arse if the tax man cottons on, they can go back a few years for arrears and interest on top.
And if he isn't it might come back and bite you both in the arse if the tax man cottons on, they can go back a few years for arrears and interest on top.
- Location
- South West
Not if it’s solely for work purposes and is a commercial vehicle (pick up/van)
if you use it to do the school run or anything other than ‘work’ then you fall in to the company car bracket and need to pay BIK tax.
(but if the OP is classing it as a perk of the job I’d imagine he uses it for more than checking the animals and going to the dealer on a parts run…!)
We don't pay for untaken holiday or roll days over, except in exceptional circumstances, but it's very very rare I can't accommodate time off when requested. I far prefer staff not to be off in seasonal peaks but always tell them not to miss important family stuff for the sake of work - I always find a way of keeping stuff happening.
I'm not their social secretary nor their mother, it's up to them to manage their own holidays.
Many a time I've struggled to get staff to take holiday over Christmas at times (I like a bit of peace occasionally myself, to what I want to do instead of what I have to do!) Then they're moaning when it's 5th April and they've just lost the 10days holiday they had left! It's not complicated, but some folk make it so.
I'm not their social secretary nor their mother, it's up to them to manage their own holidays.
Many a time I've struggled to get staff to take holiday over Christmas at times (I like a bit of peace occasionally myself, to what I want to do instead of what I have to do!) Then they're moaning when it's 5th April and they've just lost the 10days holiday they had left! It's not complicated, but some folk make it so.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
What happens with working weekends.
Do they get added to holiday days?
Do they get added to holiday days?
- Location
- The North
Reading this again there’s no wonder the agricultural sector find it hard to find and keep staff, treat staff as you would hope to be treated your self, biggest problem is a lot of farmers have never been an employee…
Good attitude to have on both sides. Would suggest it only fair that if you're working the extra days, they are overtime hours and you should be at least topped up to overtime pay for the 18 days, or as already suggested, keeping you in meat from the farm would be a sign of appreciation.
The bother is that as an employer you're expected to be a mind reader. I'm not sure what more I can do tbh. I'm obviously not going to encourage time off when we're busy, if staff won't take it over Christmas nor request it before the year end that's their pigeon to be fair, I can't force them to have time off(it's only very occasional that a pig batch change or arable event happens that week, and we can plan that in)
There isn't anything that can't be sorted with a conversation
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
That’s not correct. He has been paid for those days one assumes but, effectively, he has chosen to work them rather than for someone else or take the time off. Yes, a good employer will pay him extra for those days seeing as they did not make arrangements for replacement labour so that those days could be taken off without consequences.
Self employed are not entitled to any holiday of course and have to make their own replacement labour arrangements if necessary and probably pay for them also.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
A lot of people are like you. Enjoy working all hours non stop all year round.
- Location
- South West
On all of the pay slips we give people we put on there the holiday entitlement and days taken, gives them a poke every month that they have 10/8/6 days remaining.
Also put a big Callander up on the wall of the break room so people can write in there there own holiday requests which I then highlight in orange when ‘approved’. I’ve never not approved a request; it’s more to show it’s been seen and noticed from a management prospective.
we run holiday over the same period as financial year to make it easier with pay slips pay rises etc, I normally give each person a WhatsApp message on the last quarter saying look you’ve got 6 days holiday remaining and none booked, you’ve got 3 months to use it or loose it.
in reality I say we don’t pay out or roll holiday over, but I would in exceptional circumstances. Covid being one of them where people couldn’t travel or go on holiday so just worked instead, I paid everyone out.
- Location
- South West
But then come on to a forum to moan that there holiday won’t be rolled over or paid out.
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- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Careful - it could be that the OP is so poor a worker that he/she needs the extra days to do what could be done with also taking holidays. Certainly if they aren’t able to manage their own leave allowance, then that indicates they might not be the sharpest.
Unless a holiday request has been denied, I wouldn’t be paying an employee for 18 days of carry over. Maybe a week that was being kept as contingency for a developing problem, but that would be my limit. A salaried person is employed to do a job and part of that job is managing their own time.
All hypothetical of course and without specific judgement of any specific person on the forum.
I wasn’t moaning at all I was asking a questionBut then come on to a forum to moan that there holiday won’t be rolled over or paid out.