Upgrading Slaughter Hoggs

[MF135]

Hi all, I’ve bought some slaughter hoggs as replacements and I’m wondering how I go about upgrading them. Is it just a case of cutting out the slaughter tags and putting two in or will they need to be replaced with red tags?

 

[twizzel]

Need to cut out the slaughter tag and replace with double red tags as they weren't born on your holding.

 

[Heatgereater]

Sorry to high jack thread but do you still need to do that if they were born on holding

 

[Filthyfarmer]

Sorry to high jack thread but do you still need to do that if they were born on holding

yup, clipping out slaughter tag and double tagging replacement ewe lambs today as it happens.......

 

[AftonShepherd]

Presumably don't need to be red if they're still on holding of birth.

 

[tinsheet]

Presumably don't need to be red if they're still on holding of birth.

Correct!

 

[AftonShepherd]

Correct!

Was sure I was, but also know there are slight differences between countries.

 

[Filthyfarmer]

Was sure I was, but also know there are slight differences between countries.

Hence the good reason to put at least a country or county on with your name.................

 

[tinsheet]

Was sure I was, but also know there are slight differences between countries.

Ridiculous, it's no wonder people get confused.

 

[CollCrofter]

We'll need to know which part of the UK you're in

In Scotland I have to replace purchased sheep with red tags and if I have to upgrade home bred animals from a slaughter tag I can use any colour I like. Ewe tags this year are yellow and pink and slaughter tags are purple!!

 

[MF135]

 

[Fendt516profi]

Is there a requirement to record the slaughter tag number and record its new Eid number

 

[neilo]

Is there a requirement to record the slaughter tag number and record its new Eid number

Why? If they’re homebred there’s no reason why they ‘had’ to be tagged before 12 months of age/leaving the farm, and no record if they did have tags in.
For all anyone knows, the breeding pair is the first tags they’ve had in.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Why? If they’re homebred there’s no reason why they ‘had’ to be tagged before 12 months of age/leaving the farm, and no record if they did have tags in.
For all anyone knows, the breeding pair is the first tags they’ve had in.

I was meaning his bought in slaughter Hoggs. Do they not have to be tagged before they leave farm or 31st December of the year there born

 

[Fendt516profi]

 

[CollCrofter]

Why? If they’re homebred there’s no reason why they ‘had’ to be tagged before 12 months of age/leaving the farm, and no record if they did have tags in.
For all anyone knows, the breeding pair is the first tags they’ve had in.

Are they not meant to be tagged at least 9 months old? All ewe lambs are double tagged and all wedder lambs slaughter tagged

I tag everything pretty early. I can claim the upland hogg payment so makes my life easier when the claim is due and the list of tag numbers

 

[Loftyrules]

Why? If they’re homebred there’s no reason why they ‘had’ to be tagged before 12 months of age/leaving the farm, and no record if they did have tags in.
For all anyone knows, the breeding pair is the first tags they’ve had in.

Do they not tallly your tag application against your tag purchases?

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Do they not tallly your tag application against your tag purchases?

They lose them!!

 

[CollCrofter]

Do they not tallly your tag application against your tag purchases?

From I understand they know when you have purchased the tags and the sequence of numbers and then they can see what you have and have not allocated to an animal. So if you order tags on a certain date and then on your records they are identified before that date then they WILL pick up on it. I have dozens of unallocated from over the years as I use different colours for each year so I'm always left with a few double EIDs. However there is nothing stopping me using any of my old tags as a replacement for any homebred double tagged animals no matter when they were born. I had a sheep inspection a couple of years ago and the inspector had a quick rummage through my unallocated tag box which is are organised in freezer bags with the year of purchase and the sequence of numbers remaining written on the bag. He was very pleased with it.

So when I replace any of last years stragglers with slaughter tags there is nothing stopping me using tags purchased years ago as long as they are EID

 

[Anymulewilldo]

We'll need to know which part of the UK you're in

In Scotland I have to replace purchased sheep with red tags and if I have to upgrade home bred animals from a slaughter tag I can use any colour I like. Ewe tags this year are yellow and pink and slaughter tags are purple!!

It's farmers like you that cause me grief then! ?
Had a surprise trading standards visit a couple of years ago, the one where they ring 1 hour before arriving. I had a shed full of fat Hoggs in for bellying so I thought "ideal, loads of tags too look at, I've just checked they are all carrying tags anyway"
Inspection went grand until they wanted too look at a few tags! She was reading me the riot act as some Hoggs had green or blue eid tags, it's illegal and I'm a very naughty man, going to stop my BPS and all that. I stood quietly. Then she looked at a few cheviot ewes I had in a pen feeding and they all had yellow doubles! Well off she went again, eventually she drew breath so I had time to point out they were ALL from north of the border so the rules are different. I had to take her too the office, fire up Google and prove that I was right before she let it go!!
2 weeks later I got a letter telling me that I must be sure to keep my sheep appropriately tagged.
Sometimes I dispair!! ??