Using a barn for painting lorries

[possumbility]

I have been asked by a relation if he can use my barn to paint a few lorries, what are the pitfalls regarding potential loss of agricultural exemption for rates.
I would prefer to say no, so what excuse can I make.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

You need the shed for something else?

 

[Danllan]

I know of several instances in which farm buildings were used for re-sprays; the only problem was that the vehicles were being re-sprayed for re-sale without their owners' permissions... Hopefully not a factor in your case, but worth knowing because, in such instances, if things go wrong, you could find yourself in trouble.

 

[possumbility]

I don't need the shed, I sold most of my farmland and have no use for an 8000 ft2 corn store.

 

[Highland Mule]

Environmental issues with the fumes?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I don't need the shed, I sold most of my farmland and have no use for an 8000 ft2 corn store.

Surely you need somewhere to park your bike?

 

[76masseyman]

Food storage shed, so would render useless for any future potential renting out.

 

[Danllan]

I have been asked by a relation if he can use my barn to paint a few lorries, what are the pitfalls regarding potential loss of agricultural exemption for rates.
I would prefer to say no, so what excuse can I make.

Brain just started working... not a goer because it's change of use from ag' to industrial.

 

[possumbility]

thats my excuse, rates on a building that size would be horrendous.

 

[possumbility]

and of course covid restrictions

 

[deleted user 436632456]

Do you have an interceptor to collect any potentially spilt paint??...No?? Damn it can’t use it.

 

[Thick Farmer]

I have been asked by a relation if he can use my barn to paint a few lorries, what are the pitfalls regarding potential loss of agricultural exemption for rates.
I would prefer to say no, so what excuse can I make.

Just sat ‘No’ then. It’s easy!

 

[Goweresque]

Tell him you'd lose your Class Q development rights for redundant agricultural buildings if you let him use it for other purposes.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Kill him!

 

[Exfarmer]

Remember, once you pay rates then you always ay rates until building demolished

 

[Danllan]

Tell him you'd lose your Class Q development rights for redundant agricultural buildings if you let him use it for other purposes.

Off topic a bit, but out of interest, and I'm open to correction on this because planning law really isn't something I enjoy, but I don't think that's applicable here in Wales because - since devolution - England has had additional / better PDRs than here, can you confirm this?

 

[Chae1]

Better to use a brush or a spray gun to paint a lorry.

 

[Goweresque]

Off topic a bit, but out of interest, and I'm open to correction on this because planning law really isn't something I enjoy, but I don't think that's applicable here in Wales because - since devolution - England has had additional / better PDRs than here, can you confirm this?

Yes I think thats correct, Class Q PDR is available in England but not Wales.

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[kiwi pom]

I have been asked by a relation if he can use my barn to paint a few lorries, what are the pitfalls regarding potential loss of agricultural exemption for rates.
I would prefer to say no, so what excuse can I make.

If you're not using it for farming knock it down, then you don't have to worry about the rates

 

[possumbility]

If I didn't value my privacy it would be rented out, converted to business units or developed under class Q PDR.
If I knocked it down where would I put my man Cave?