Volunteer to coordinate your local Good Friday Protest

[kiwi pom]

Email me at [email protected] if YOU are willing to build a tractor protest in your area.

Or am I pissing in the wind?

What are your demands?
If you are going to inconvenience the public, you might want to explain why.
When just stop oil or anyone else for that matter protests or strikes they get destroyed on here.
Double standards?

 

[JP1]

Picket outside NFU HQ when the GFC is announced in advance of the second review

No tractors

Just individual farmers and farm workers with clear message placards and the press

 

[MF CI]

Which union? There’s two now isnt there.

Either or both.

 

[kiwi pom]

Either or both.

Right oh.
The BFU was formed on this forum wasn't it.
Are they telling members to protest?

 

[john 650]

Which union? There’s two now isnt there.

There's only one- the other doesn't declare member numbers, have a democratic one member one vote system, and is run by a handful behind closed doors.


The other one was set up to overcome these massive shortfalls, but also doesn't declare member numbers, have a democratic one member one vote system, and is run by a handful behind closed doors.

 

[betweenthelines]

What are your demands?
If you are going to inconvenience the public, you might want to explain why.
When just stop oil or anyone else for that matter protests or strikes they get destroyed on here.
Double standards?

Not much chance of a Good Friday protest inconveniencing anyone. Even less chance of the media covering it-apart from major national and international events, most news items on a Bank Holiday are pre-recorded "background" stories.

 

[betweenthelines]

I would suggest that just having a number of slow moving vehicles (tractors) on major commuter routes would be far more effective than dozens of disparate minor disruptions around the Country. If anyone does want to stage a pro farming protest, I suggest they do the following:

Speak to the main media outlets about what you want and why-leave them plenty of handouts as they'll forget what you tell them.

Cause as much disruption as you can in the London area (no one in power gives a shyte about what happens in places like North Allerton, Oswestry or Bideford)

Make sure you have plenty of articulate, well informed people to act as spokesman before during and after the event.

I would suggest that just having a number of slow moving vehicles (tractors) on major commuter routes would be far more effective than dozens of disparate minor disruptions around the Country.

 

[mobileweld]

Perhaps someone should streak at a football match who’s volunteering

 

[Bald Rick]

Very British-a demo that won't disrupt or upset people.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Good Friday you say?

Will it be a really, really, really, really, really, reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaally wet day?

Otherwise, I might be a bit busy.

 

[kiwi pom]

I would suggest that just having a number of slow moving vehicles (tractors) on major commuter routes would be far more effective than dozens of disparate minor disruptions around the Country. If anyone does want to stage a pro farming protest, I suggest they do the following:

Speak to the main media outlets about what you want and why-leave them plenty of handouts as they'll forget what you tell them.

Cause as much disruption as you can in the London area (no one in power gives a shyte about what happens in places like North Allerton, Oswestry or Bideford)

Make sure you have plenty of articulate, well informed people to act as spokesman before during and after the event.

I would suggest that just having a number of slow moving vehicles (tractors) on major commuter routes would be far more effective than dozens of disparate minor disruptions around the Country.

Your spokespeople need to be able to tell the public what farmers want with a united front.
Have we established what everyone wants?
Why is it ok to cause disruption but when anyone else does it TFF is up in arms about it.

 

[kiwi pom]

There's only one- the other doesn't declare member numbers, have a democratic one member one vote system, and is run by a handful behind closed doors.


The other one was set up to overcome these massive shortfalls, but also doesn't declare member numbers, have a democratic one member one vote system, and is run by a handful behind closed doors.

Something I was wondering (because obviously I can't be in either union) As the BFU seems to have been created on here, do members then discover who everyone who has joined actually is, or is it still just user names?
Seems a bit secretive to me. NFU leaders are known to the public and take a lot of stick from farmers and the public (especially on here)
Are the leaders of the BFU well known?

 

[Grass And Grain]

There's only one- the other doesn't declare member numbers, have a democratic one member one vote system, and is run by a handful behind closed doors.


The other one was set up to overcome these massive shortfalls, but also doesn't declare member numbers, have a democratic one member one vote system, and is run by a handful behind closed doors.

It is run by a handful. More help appreciated if anyone's interested!

We've had a few OMOV votes.

Haven't had an election as yet, but that's something which needs to happen at an appropriate point in time, which is fast approaching.

No membership numbers declared yet. What do people think? Declare numbers? Don't declare numbers? Maybe we have a OMOV poll on it?

Something I was wondering (because obviously I can't be in either union) As the BFU seems to have been created on here, do members then discover who everyone who has joined actually is, or is it still just user names?
Seems a bit secretive to me. NFU leaders are known to the public and take a lot of stick from farmers and the public (especially on here)
Are the leaders of the BFU well known?

Bios of steering committee are on the website. We haven't got around to uploading head and shoulder mugshots yet. We do need to improve communication though!
The username thing is a bit of a nuisance, as it makes it look like anonymous people. Part of me thinks don't get hung up about it, and the other part of me thinks it needs improving (but how?).

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Those of you running the BFU could name and picture yourselves on here.

Simple.

From what I’ve heard, you would do much better in terms of numbers and help if you did. Nobody wants to communicate with a faceless organisation.

 

[Rnold]

I don't think it's necessary to declare numbers yet unless you have a seriously impressive number. After all who knows how many true farmers there are within the NFU.

It may put people off joining if they think the BFU are just a dozen keyboard warriors working in a forum and perhaps shedding a bit more light on a member of the steering committee in terms of them, their business and ideas in a main stream farm media publication may be useful to inspire others at this time. It doesn't want to look like a campaign for president, just a article to give a bit more context to what BFU membership is about. I don't underestimate the bravery required in doing this.

Usernames on here are very useful. Anonymity is useful. It's allowing enough people on here who are involved in the cause to attend NFU meetings and use their NFU connections to apply pressure.

Your doing a great job thus far.

 

[Mc115reed]

Iv a couple loads of muck I could do with getting rid of just tell me where too tip it

 

[Spencer]

Iv a couple loads of muck I could do with getting rid of just tell me where too tip it

I’ll have it on some spring stubble

 

[kiwi pom]

It is run by a handful. More help appreciated if anyone's interested!

We've had a few OMOV votes.

Haven't had an election as yet, but that's something which needs to happen at an appropriate point in time, which is fast approaching.

No membership numbers declared yet. What do people think? Declare numbers? Don't declare numbers? Maybe we have a OMOV poll on it?


Bios of steering committee are on the website. We haven't got around to uploading head and shoulder mugshots yet. We do need to improve communication though!
The username thing is a bit of a nuisance, as it makes it look like anonymous people. Part of me thinks don't get hung up about it, and the other part of me thinks it needs improving (but how?).

I think you have to declare numbers if you're to be taken seriously, on the other hand if you don't have many members...
I don't know what you do about the username thing, I do think it's a bit of an issue. Personally I think you need to distance the union from TFF long term. I'm on the other side of the planet and I know British farmers who have either never heard of it, won't join or can't stand it.
Hopefully on the members only page you're bit more organised as to what message to present to the public, regarding protests etc.
As Deliah points out, finding out what farmers actually want (aside from no RT) seems tricky on the main forum.
Obviously none of my business but I am a member of the public and you will have to get the British public onside with certain issues. Not sure TFF helps with that, in fact it can be very anti general public.

Are any of the bigger YouTube farmers BFU members?

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Picket outside NFU HQ when the GFC is announced in advance of the second review

No tractors

Just individual farmers and farm workers with clear message placards and the press

While I agree with the sentiments , I feel that morally it's only right that NFU members can be justified in picketing or demonstrating outside NFU ivory towers .
I'm not a member and therefore they could quite justified in saying to me " why are you here complaining about what we do when you aren't a member,"
Surely it's the responsibility of disgruntled NFU members to lobby and protest at what their own organisation is failing to do .

In other words .... with all the dissatisfaction going on at Everton football club ,it's their own crowd that are protesting about it not the Anfield or Old Trafford.

I'm I favour of protesting but it's very very important that
A, we have a clear agenda
B, The general public are clear what it's about
C, Got to well organised .

I'm not convinced the general public ,by and large , will be sympathetic with £250,000 tractors clogging up the roads with out really understanding why .

 

[Sicknote]

I'm I favour of protesting but it's very very important that
A, we have a clear agenda
B, The general public are clear what it's about
C, Got to well organised .

I'm not convinced the general public ,by and large , will be sympathetic with £250,000 tractors clogging up the roads with out really understanding why .

For that bit you need Jeremy Clarkson to be putting the message out. Love him or hate him, he’s got the general public watching farming and paying some interest in it.