Walter P...Brexit..Farmers...Turkeys

[turbo]

exactly right.
The property owning lobby ensured that they wouldnt pay, but the guy who gets out of bed every morning does.

What about the people that get out of bed and have bought the property that they run their business from?will they have to work harder and charge more because they put their choppers on the block and bought the property

 

[stewart]

Why should any business pay rates?

Good question, I suppose it is to pay for running the local services that councils provide, it is a form of tax so you could argue why should anyone pay tax?

 

[stewart]

exactly right.
The property owning lobby ensured that they wouldnt pay, but the guy who gets out of bed every morning does.

Perhaps the property owner got out of bed early and worked to build up his assets, now reaping the benefits of his labours.

 

[beefandsleep]

Isn't the Brexiteer's future all about "harking to the past".

That’s the narrative remainders would have you believe.

 

[Ashtree]

With a rush of Brexit blood to the head, and an eagerness to please the leavers who clearly voted out largely because of immigration, TM quickly slammed the door on immigrants coming in to work in the NHS.

Two years later just this week, that particular policy has been quietly shelved. Britain is completely unable to staff its own health service with British people. It’s ever been the way. Long before the EU or EEC for that matter, the British health service depended heavily on Irish immigrants to fill the nursing ranks in particular.

Question is why can’t Britain staff it’s own hospitals?

I live quite near the ABP abbatoir near Ellesmere. I notice they have put up big billboards in the local towns and villages , advertising for staff, encouraging school leavers to earn while they learn .
That’s because the east Europeans are already departing and will lead to the slaughtering capacity in the uk, shrinking and inevitably being replaced by imports unless brits start to work in this industry .

Ditto fruit and veg operations in UK, right through the life cycle from planting to harvesting to packaging to delivering. With very low unemployment and the sharp decline in availability of migrant labour, something has to snap!!

 

[turbo]

With a rush of Brexit blood to the head, and an eagerness to please the leavers who clearly voted out largely because of immigration, TM quickly slammed the door on immigrants coming in to work in the NHS.

Two years later just this week, that particular policy has been quietly shelved. Britain is completely unable to staff its own health service with British people. It’s ever been the way. Long before the EU or EEC for that matter, the British health service depended heavily on Irish immigrants to fill the nursing ranks in particular.

Question is why can’t Britain staff it’s own hospitals?


Ditto fruit and veg operations in UK, right through the life cycle from planting to harvesting to packaging to delivering. With very low unemployment and the sharp decline in availability of migrant labour, something has to snap!!

More rambling rubbish,the staff for the nhs should be able to come here from anywhere in the world providing they have a job to go to but under free movement from the eu anyone can come here job or no job and that’s what we voted to stop

 

[glasshouse]

Perhaps the property owner got out of bed early and worked to build up his assets, now reaping the benefits of his labours.

Unlikely

 

[glasshouse]

What about the people that get out of bed and have bought the property that they run their business from?will they have to work harder and charge more because they put their choppers on the block and bought the property

No, they wont pay any more

 

[two-cylinder]

I see buissness rates should be payed by the landlord!no doubt if the tennet wants some alterations doing the landlord should pay as well

It would make no difference, if the Landlord paid the rates the rent would simply be higher.
As far as alterations are concerned it would depend on if said changes enhanced the property's value and attractiveness to any tenant or was specific to just that tenant.

 

[turbo]

No, they wont pay any more

But how can that be true?

 

[glasshouse]

But how can that be true?

The rates are the same regardless

 

[beefandsleep]

More rambling rubbish,the staff for the nhs should be able to come here from anywhere in the world providing they have a job to go to but under free movement from the eu anyone can come here job or no job and that’s what we voted to stop

This is absolutely right and how the great majority of leave voters of my acquaintance think, I can’t see why this is so difficult for folk to grasp. I think it’s easier for the lazy thinkers who prefer to be led by the nose by Brussels to dismiss Brexit and all leave voters as backward racists. Obviously backward racists exist in the UK as they certainly do in Ireland and every other country too and they more than likely voted out. I will take their vote thanks as it’s as valuable as anyone else’s but don’t make the mistake of thinking that’s what leave was about because it wasn’t.

 

[turbo]

The rates are the same regardless

But how can it be?an owner of property that runs a buissness will be at a disadvantage to one that just rents a shop

 

[glasshouse]

But how can it be?an owner of property that runs a buissness will be at a disadvantage to one that just rents a shop

He owns the shop, he pays the rates, he will not beat a disadvantage

 

[turbo]

He owns the shop, he pays the rates, he will not beat a disadvantage

But his cost are going to be higher just because he bought a property to do buisness out off?

 

[Hindsight]

More rambling rubbish,the staff for the nhs should be able to come here from anywhere in the world providing they have a job to go to but under free movement from the eu anyone can come here job or no job and that’s what we voted to stop

But it is (was) reciprocal. Immigration I mean. Job or no job - or at least thats how I understood the arrangement. What about all the British that now reside in Southern Spain etc, even our friend Nigel Lawson. I was quite surprised how many Brits now live in Southern Spain when the numbers were quoted during the referendum campaign. I have not researched but do wonder if all these old, dodgy health Brits pose a burden to Spain? Hey ho.

 

[Tarw Coch]

I live quite near the ABP abbatoir near Ellesmere. I notice they have put up big billboards in the local towns and villages , advertising for staff, encouraging school leavers to earn while they learn .
That’s because the east Europeans are already departing and will lead to the slaughtering capacity in the uk, shrinking and inevitably being replaced by imports unless brits start to work in this industry .

You will also be old enough to remember a time when there probably wasn’t any immigrants working there yet last I heard there’s very few indigenous population working there in anything other than management roles.
I seem to remember talk that the slagtermen were on £500 a week when I was a teenager some 30 years ago, with most if not all of them coming from the local community

 

[glasshouse]

But his cost are going to be higher just because he bought a property to do buisness out off?

If he owns property he needs to pay property taxes

 

[DRC]

You will also be old enough to remember a time when there probably wasn’t any immigrants working there yet last I heard there’s very few indigenous population working there in anything other than management roles.
I seem to remember talk that the slagtermen were on £500 a week when I was a teenager some 30 years ago, with most if not all of them coming from the local community

That’s true. I did know some of the lads that were slaughtermen back in the day , and were on very good money . Most took redundancy .
The difficult bit will be encouraging young locals to see it as a career again

 

[glasshouse]

That’s true. I did know some of the lads that were slaughtermen back in the day , and were on very good money . Most took redundancy .
The difficult bit will be encouraging young locals to see it as a career again

Money talks