Well a big enough cheque book is the answer to carbon footprint

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
To be fair to Harry and Megan they can hardly get on a easy jet flight and i'm pretty sure their security team would not allow it. If they want to leave the UK ever they have little choice and also probably need half a dozen seats for security staff. I for one would not want that kind of life, feel sorry for them not envious, a life that has to have half a dozen close protection officers in sight is not much of a life really

I certainly would not want to be on the same easy jet flight ! It would be quite a target I think !!!


Tabloid press over simplifying again - exactly what we get upset about when they do the same about farming
 
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Get used to this - if you are still farming a decade from now it will be a major part of your income

It's not a daft as it initially sounds if the carbon bond is used to create or support green capital / carbon sequestration which simply wont happen for free

we should be over joyed about this - we are sat on gold !

Sat on gold except if you are into intensive livestock or intensive crops!
 

PSQ

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Arable Farmer

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Sat on gold except if you are into intensive livestock or intensive crops!
well maybe some of that has to change in the future and if financial incentive exists I suspect it will

Clive,you can educate Ollie on how changes in management can allow intensive cereal production,improving soil quantity and quality also capturing carbon as a bonus.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Just seen that Sir Elton John paid to cover Harry and Megan’s carbon footprint on his private jet.So do you carry on making a carbon foot print but ha ho just write a cheque and buy your get out of jail card.And we have to listern to them lecturing us on carbon foot print.Total joke
Morally wrong and hopefully it will be clamped down on. We should all do our bit and not be allowed to buy our way out of obligations.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
To be fair to Harry and Megan they can hardly get on a easy jet flight and i'm pretty sure their security team would not allow it. If they want to leave the UK ever they have little choice and also probably need half a dozen seats for security staff. I for one would not want that kind of life, feel sorry for them not envious, a life that has to have half a dozen close protection officers in sight is not much of a life really

I certainly would not want to be on the same easy jet flight ! It would be quite a target I think !!!


Tabloid press over simplifying again - exactly what we get upset about when they do the same about farming
The queen regularly uses commercial flights as do many other members of the Royal family when the Royal jet is not available. Apparently William and Kate quite recently were spotted in the budget airline Wizz quite recently.
I cannot see that flying commercial with all the security checks at our airports, combined with the lack of pre knowledge of who you are flying with, makes this particularly dangerous for anyone
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Carbon offset or not, these clowns are using up irreplaceable fossil fuel that we need as a raw material in the manufacture of fertiliser and many other essential products.

You cannot make fertiliser from trees or green electricity, so carbon offsetting is useless in this respect.

If fossil fuel reserves were preserved as a raw material for manufacturing rather than being burnt on "jollies" then they would last thousands of years rather than a few decades.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Where are all these trees being planted? Which country is giving up agricultural land to forestry which won't turn a penny for years, and then what, they cut them down or just let them rot?

The whole thing is very dubious from what I can see. If a forest was gradually creeping across the Sahara then I'd take notice but otherwise I bet a lot of this offsetting money just disappears and somebody is doing very nicely thank you.
 
Where are all these trees being planted?

Is carbon offsetting regulated at all?

If I were to put put aside a wet corner and advertise native tree planting (with some fancy figures of kg C02 capture per year over 20 years), all for £249.99 per tree, companies would bite my hand off to have their new eco-credentials advertised on their letterheads.
 
Get used to this - if you are still farming a decade from now it will be a major part of your income

It's not a daft as it initially sounds if the carbon bond is used to create or support green capital / carbon sequestration which simply wont happen for free

we should be over joyed about this - we are sat on gold !
Or will it be just like farming now, we will be the primary producers working for the minimum whilst the traders above is make a fortune?
 
Carbon offset or not, these clowns are using up irreplaceable fossil fuel that we need as a raw material in the manufacture of fertiliser and many other essential products.

You cannot make fertiliser from trees or green electricity, so carbon offsetting is useless in this respect.

If fossil fuel reserves were preserved as a raw material for manufacturing rather than being burnt on "jollies" then they would last thousands of years rather than a few decades.

I can say with absolute certainty right now chaps that there is enough oil and gas in just the Northern hemisphere to supply our current rates of consumption for at least 100 years.

Wherever you used to find oil and gas you will find shale also. Shale contains oil and gas within it. Frack that shale and bingo out comes the go-go juice.

The UK alone is sat on an estimated 1000 trillion cubic feet of gas in shale.....
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Where are all these trees being planted? Which country is giving up agricultural land to forestry which won't turn a penny for years, and then what, they cut them down or just let them rot?

The whole thing is very dubious from what I can see. If a forest was gradually creeping across the Sahara then I'd take notice but otherwise I bet a lot of this offsetting money just disappears and somebody is doing very nicely thank you.

Sweden and Finland are very proud of their sustainable forestry, not sure that they are giving up farmland but the cultivation of trees is very well managed.
 

CornishTone

Member
BASIS
Location
Cornwall
Get used to this - if you are still farming a decade from now it will be a major part of your income

It's not a daft as it initially sounds if the carbon bond is used to create or support green capital / carbon sequestration which simply wont happen for free

we should be over joyed about this - we are sat on gold !
There are a couple of pilot projects just started in Devon aiming to profile soil carbon stores, with some big companies involved looking to offset their carbon emissions. The project is bringing the two together with the ultimate aim of paying farmers for their carbon storage/sequestration.

The problem is that there is no quick, easy way of profiling soil carbon across a farm. Every field and soil type are likely to be different and will need retesting regularly to see any change. Currently the protocol involves a lot of digging and sampling at various depths = time consuming and expensive.

It's very early days and is really just dipping the toe in to see if the principle is sound and workable, but there are some big names willing to invest (There just needs to be a machine that can measure and map SOC quickly and cheaply).

It's a very real prospect for farmers to be paid according to the amount of SOC they are sat on, should they wish. If they choose to farm in a way which increases their SOC, they can earn more. If they farm in a way that reduces SOC on land they've nomonated, they'll get paid less.
 

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