Wet the new normal

[Grassman]

If the wet weather we have experienced for the last nine months was to be the "normal" I think I would have to pack in.
It's just too miserable and hard work!
Hopefully it's a one off season.

 

[robs1]

If the wet weather we have experienced for the last nine months was to be the "normal" I think I would have to pack in.
It's just too miserable and hard work!
Hopefully it's a one off season.

2012/13 was much the same here, but agree that constantly raining gets you down

 

[nick...]

Another 4 MM here this morning and local forecast shows same till next Tuesday.plenty to do if sun and wind appear for a few days
nick…

 

[Sam Partridge]

'This too shall pass'

 

[Goweresque]

Tonga Eruption Blasted Unprecedented Amount of Water Into Stratosphere - NASA

The huge amount of water vapor hurled into the atmosphere, as detected by NASA’s Microwave Limb Sounder, could end up temporarily warming Earth’s surface.

www.nasa.gov

This single eruption about 2 years ago added 10% to the entire amount of water vapour in the global atmosphere. Thats why we are seeing more rain - there's a lot more moisture in the atmosphere. Once the excess has come out and things get back to normal the weather will do likewise.

 

[Yale]

There’s a difference between weather patterns and climate change. One humans can visibly see and the other is imperceptible.

 

[serf]

I recon the Gov ordered it so everyone signs up to SFI ...

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Livestock farms seen to cope better with extended wet spells than extended dry around here
But i believe parts of England have had iy worse than we have

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I said to my dad if these winters are going to be the same every year I’ll be looking for a new job…..it’s been the most depressing winter I’ve ever known

 

[will_mck]

Try being an arable farmer in the north west of Ireland where it's wave after wave of low pressure weather coming off the Atlantic. There's only two types of weather here, either its raining or its about to rain. Southern Irish Arable farmers at a tillage walk one day were complaining about how intolerable all this wet weather was recently and the National Agronomist Advisor for Teagasc told them "Sure it's like this in Donegal every year"....Donegal's a Northern region of the republic of ireland. We're envious of most other arable area's weather wise. You have to learn to be resilient round these parts or drown

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

Summer 2022 we were told longer hotter drier summers were expected to be the norm…. How was summer 2023 for everyone….

 

[DrWazzock]

If this is the new normal then grass and livestock will return here 100%.
Bang the lot in with herbal leys?
Graze extensively?

 

[e5c0rt.mk1]

Its got to have been the worst 24months for farming livestock. 2022 it never rained, no grass for the cows to graze, and hardly any to cut and bale. A field i got 69 bales off in 2023 i only got 14 off it in 2022. Every field was the same story.

Then since March 2023 it never stopped raining, to the point I have 25 acre field i never cut because it was that wet. Making a total mess of fields just to get the grass off. Getting stuck, not being able to cut hedges without making a mess.

The weather in the UK is just one extreme to the other, I can understand why alot of people will be signing up to sfi and putting their feet up.

 

[Grassman]

Its got to have been the worst 24months for farming livestock. 2022 it never rained, no grass for the cows to graze, and hardly any to cut and bale. A field i got 69 bales off in 2023 i only got 14 off it in 2022. Every field was the same story.

Then since March 2023 it never stopped raining, to the point I have 25 acre field i never cut because it was that wet. Making a total mess of fields just to get the grass off. Getting stuck, not being able to cut hedges without making a mess.

The weather in the UK is just one extreme to the other, I can understand why alot of people will be signing up to sfi and putting their feet up.

It seems to be continuous extremes nowadays

 

[Will 1594]

'This too shall pass'

It will sooner than you think , be drought conditions in 6 week 2 month s time

 

[livestock 1]

Keeping livestock isn’t getting any easier

 

[Nithsdale]

Tonga Eruption Blasted Unprecedented Amount of Water Into Stratosphere - NASA

The huge amount of water vapor hurled into the atmosphere, as detected by NASA’s Microwave Limb Sounder, could end up temporarily warming Earth’s surface.

www.nasa.gov

This single eruption about 2 years ago added 10% to the entire amount of water vapour in the global atmosphere. Thats why we are seeing more rain - there's a lot more moisture in the atmosphere. Once the excess has come out and things get back to normal the weather will do likewise.

If this explains the weather now.... what explains all the wet weather for the previous 10-14 years?

Record rainfall 2012 - over 7ft of rainfall when we normally get around 3.5ft - and 2013 was also very wet. 2016 winter was exceptionally wet with flooding my father (76) had never seen here before.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Another 4 MM here this morning and local forecast shows same till next Tuesday.plenty to do if sun and wind appear for a few days
nick…

You don't know how lucky you are!!
We had 4 mm yesterday and 12 today. Mid Kent had over 30mm!!

 

[Goweresque]

If this explains the weather now.... what explains all the wet weather for the previous 10-14 years?

Record rainfall 2012 - over 7ft of rainfall when we normally get around 3.5ft - and 2013 was also very wet. 2016 winter was exceptionally wet with flooding my father (76) had never seen here before.

Simple - the North Atlantic Multi-decadal Oscillation.

Atlantic multidecadal oscillation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The sea surface temperature of the North Atlantic varies on a long term cycle, through warm and cold phases. During cold phases high pressure systems are more likely to form in the Atlantic, which block the westerly winds, leading (in the UK) to hot dry summers and cold winters. During warm phases low pressure systems form in the Atlantic, which are blown over the UK on the westerlies, resulting in wet summers and mild but wet winters. As you can see from the chart in the link above, we entered a warm phase at around the turn of the millennium, from a cold phase that had lasted from about 1960. Now remind me again what period had lots of long hot summers and colder winters..........

[as an aside, in 2018 there was a massive cold spot in the Atlantic up by Iceland, over which formed a blocking high pressure system, which sat there for much of the year. 2018 was also the year of the Beast from the East, a warm and dry spring, and a long hot summer that threatened to rival 1976. Coincidence?]

 

[MrNoo]

You don't know how lucky you are!!
We had 4 mm yesterday and 12 today. Mid Kent had over 30mm!!

Yes we picked up 22mm today after 5mm yesterday, ground is like the middle of winter here again. Was drying up nicely last week, got some stubbles sprayed off on the brash ground. First bit of field work since Autumn. Crops generally around here look awful