Whaley Bridge Evacaution - Toddbrook Reservoir

[badger nadgers]

If there's members affected by this who need a hand today, please message me as I'm just over the hill in Buxton. The police have closed all the roads into Whaley but are letting people evacuate.

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Whaley Bridge evacuated as 'danger to life' flood warning issued - updates

The Environment Agency issued a severe flood warning on Thursday lunchtime

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[curlietailz]

Just seen this on the news

Looks really scary but
My first thought was..... why did they ever build houses right under the dam wall

 

[Netherfield]

Just seen this on the news

Looks really scary but
My first thought was..... why did they ever build houses right under the dam wall

At a guess because nobody expected it to collapse.

 

[badger nadgers]

A few local sites where people are offering help and information:

High Peak - Community Help Site

Also:
Eh Up High Peak
Buxton Weather
High Peak Area Crime and Theft Alert Group
Buxton Weather Watch
Buxton Advertiser

 

[badger nadgers]

My first thought was..... why did they ever build houses right under the dam wall

Here's a geotech report for them.
Some info on the old coal mines at the bottom.
Photos of previous works on the dam (and a bizarre conversation about the resident cormorants)

 

[Cowcalf]

reckon it could be ok as most of damage appears to have been done by water coming over the top and getting under concrete slabs

 

[Lincsman]

Just seen this on the news

Looks really scary but
My first thought was..... why did they ever build houses right under the dam wall

Some of them may have been there first.

 

[Muck Spreader]

My brother refused to evacuate, but I would doubt his house in any risk unless the Goyt dams fail as well.

 

[Lincs Lass]

Correct me if I'm wrong but,the raf are dumping sand bags on the damaged area,, now I'm no engineer but 200 tns on the outside is not going to stop a million tons of water pushing at it if it breaks through

 

[Lincs Lass]

Correct me if I'm wrong but,the raf are dumping sand bags on the damaged area,, now I'm no engineer but 200 tns on the outside is not going to stop a million tons of water pushing at it if it breaks through

 

[mo!]

Correct me if I'm wrong but,the raf are dumping sand bags on the damaged area,, now I'm no engineer but 200 tns on the outside is not going to stop a million tons of water pushing at it if it breaks through

The report I saw was they were dropping bags on the inlets to reduce the water coming into the reservoir.

 

[Lincs Lass]

News pictures show them dropping it on the damaged spillway

 

[pettsy]

News pictures show them dropping it on the damaged spillway

As I understand it, they’re dropping them into the damaged section and a couple of the inlet sites to slow the filling/flow

 

[Muck Spreader]

This is just another case of government austerity coming home to roost. The dam and it's connecting waterways used to be managed by North West Water, this responsibility was subsequently passed to the Canal and river Trust who unsurprisingly have very little money to monitor and maintain these large structures.

The concrete spillway was only added in the late 70's after problems with the dam and there was talk of leaving it permanently empty at the time.

 

[mo!]

News pictures show them dropping it on the damaged spillway

Fair enough. Sounds a bit pointless.

 

[Cowcalf]

This is just another case of government austerity coming home to roost. The dam and it's connecting waterways used to be managed by North West Water, this responsibility was subsequently passed to the Canal and river Trust who unsurprisingly have very little money to monitor and maintain these large structures.

The concrete spillway was only added in the late 70's after problems with the dam and there was talk of leaving it permanently empty at the time.

very little to do with austerity, how much does it cost to absail over the face and check seams are all intact or even fly a drone over

 

[Muck Spreader]

very little to do with austerity, how much does it cost to absail over the face and check seams are all intact or even fly a drone over

It would cost very little for you or I to do to that, but it costs lot more for an expert to do it and sign it off as safe.

 

[renewablejohn]

This is just another case of government austerity coming home to roost. The dam and it's connecting waterways used to be managed by North West Water, this responsibility was subsequently passed to the Canal and river Trust who unsurprisingly have very little money to monitor and maintain these large structures.

The concrete spillway was only added in the late 70's after problems with the dam and there was talk of leaving it permanently empty at the time.

Think you may have your facts wrong there. As far as I know it had nothing to do with North West Water it was owned by British Waterways as its always been a reservoir to feed the adjacent canal. British Waterways then became the Canel and River Trust who have screwed and upset loads of canal boaters me being one of them. As for the spillway you just have to look at the video of the water flowing over it to notice trees are actually growing on the spillway which is typical of the canal and river trust lack of care of a national asset.

 

[Steevo]

Heard the RAF on the news earlier talking about this.

“It’s a high precision job. We’re being asked to drop them in centimetre square areas”

Now I’m no chopper pilot but that sounded rather a ridiculous attempt to blow their own trumpet to me. Dropping a dumpy bag from height with centimetre precision...?!

 

[Lincsman]

Correct me if I'm wrong but,the raf are dumping sand bags on the damaged area,, now I'm no engineer but 200 tns on the outside is not going to stop a million tons of water pushing at it if it breaks through

I think the idea will be to stop the soil bank bursting open now it has been thinned down, did worry me that dropping 4Tonnes from height at once on it, just might rupture it anyway mini earthquake style, but it looks like its ok-ish now.