What hours do you expect someone to work?

[S J H]

They expect to be paid reasonably well for the standard working week, times have moved on.

Times have moved on, and people complain that they can't afford to buy houses.

 

[yorkie]

Been doing 80-90 hrs a week last few months, getting wrapped up with land work now so down to about 50-55 a week with a couple of weeks holiday to wedge in before I start combining mid July

Thought you where there full time

 

[Beowulf]

Still manage to do most of those things, and I'm not usually home until 8pm. I'd rather work now than when I'm 50.

I don't think it's just farmers. My friends in other industries, with a general work ethic would think it's a bit alien to finish at 5.

You say 'most' of those things, so which of them are you missing out on?

 

[TripleSix]

I used to be keen for hours.

Not so much anymore.

Only managed about 92 hours the other week....

Soon get fed up of that till the money runs out.

 

[Clive]

Staff here can work whatever hours they want ......... as long as they get the work done

Give and take imo be flexible with them and they will be flexible with you in return

 

[Woolly]

Staff here can work whatever hours they want ......... as long as they get the work done
Give and take imo be flexible with them and they will be flexible with you in return

You must have core hours surely?

What about overtime, Health & Safety ?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Set objectives (realistic objectives) of what you want done in a day and when it's done it's done.
If it's done by 2 then it's done by 2, had built a very similar ethic on the farm I managed until the owner (employer) enforced time sheets, then the 2 guys milking did 10 hours a day instead of 8 or 9 and got less done as a result.... but their moaning trebled....

Depends if the work is being done to a good standard and in a productive way IMO - so long as minimum wage per pay period is observed of course, the days of "slack times counter busy times" seem to have left the building - even on farm

Bonuses and overtime soon keep folk at the face £££$$$

Edit: I know how much of a barsteward that can be from a farmer's perspective too!
but staff are paid to do stuff, not simply be there

 

[capfits]

I am taking the rest of today off.
Bye.
Ps and we wonder why productivity is so low in this country. Clearly better just to use labour as opposed to cost effective machinery. This is no India.

 

[bobk]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news...ies-earning-100k-as-brawn-drain-hits-10410663

Welcome to the real world.

We do it , is that real enough .

 

[d williams]

Let’s face it if you are working for someone else you ain’t going to be busting your balls till midnight every night, you want to get home and do stuff with family and friends ect....there’s only farmers who own their own farm working till bedtime

There's not many farmers working till midnight yes there's always the exception but most work no more and sometimes much less then mister average
Up out yard from 2mis travel to 10mis max if living in village.? Plenty people travel over 1 hour
Back in breakfast?
Talk sh!t to several a day?
Lunch.?
Through in tea several times a day
Tied to the job rather then busting balls I see farming

 

[ajd132]

Anyone else thought many farmers are just inefficient faffers and it takes twice as long to get anything done than it should?

 

[tinsheet]

Anyone else thought many farmers are just inefficient faffers and it takes twice as long to get anything done than it should?

Guilty .
Trying to work more efficiently and stop being a busy fool!.

 

[willy]

8am-4pm, or 9am-5pm. Monday through Friday only.

Any Saturday working should be kept to the bare minimum and paid at double time when absolutely necessary with Monday off. Nobody should ever be expected to work more than 40 hours a week on average, they are entitled to a life away from work too.

You really do not live in the real world. Out of interest what do you do?

 

[simmy_bull]

Anyone else thought many farmers are just inefficient faffers and it takes twice as long to get anything done than it should?

Some do. And some don’t. Some folks have a machine like work rate to the point where you think how the hell do they get through all that graft. But that could be true in any profession I should imagine.

 

[S J H]

You say 'most' of those things, so which of them are you missing out on?

I don't always read a bedtime story, and some nights I'm not back in time to see my daughter to bed. But nor was my father and I'm very thankful that he worked when he did. I didn't need to see him everyday.

I don't have a hobby but I enjoy my work and the farm so I don't really feel the need for one.

 

[ajd132]

Guilty .
Trying to work more efficiently and stop being a busy fool!.

This is a good quote from bill gates you may have heard it before 'I will always choose a lazy person to do a difficult job because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.'

 

[Clive]

You must have core hours surely?

What about overtime, Health & Safety ?

Not really dictated but 8-5 Monday - Friday is what they all choose to do unless something is pressing in which case they will do as many hours as needed to get it done, sprayer driver has averaged 100hrs a week recently for example do they are certainly not work shy when required !

At harvest / drilling times work weekends of course except one guy (sprayer driver) who never does Sunday’s as that’s the only day he sees his kids each week (divorced)

All are opted out of working time directive and never expected to do anything they feel is not safe, it’s their decision to do overtime or not

If one called me now to say he wasn’t coming today it wouldn’t matter as nothing is pressing, in fact my main guy did just text me to say he won’t be in this afternoon as it’s his little girls dance performance at school which is far more important than the bit of machinery maintenance he could be doing

 

[simmy_bull]

I don't always read a bedtime story, and some nights I'm not back in time to see my daughter to bed. But nor was my father and I'm very thankful that he worked when he did. I didn't need to see him everyday.

I don't have a hobby but I enjoy my work and the farm so I don't really feel the need for one.

I’m the same tbh my hobby has also been my own stock sort of thing. But I think the point in question is you can’t expect staff to treat your stock/livelihood as their hobby. They will have there own interests and activities outside of the bubble that farmers tend to have around there own farm.

 

[wasted years]

Anyone else thought many farmers are just inefficient faffers and it takes twice as long to get anything done than it should?

No, I have stepped outside of farming a little to diversify and have realised how slow other sectors are.

 

[S J H]

I’m the same tbh my hobby has also been my own stock sort of thing. But I think the point in question is you can’t expect staff to treat your stock/livelihood as their hobby. They will have there own interests and activities outside of the bubble that farmers tend to have around there own farm.

I agree, but I don't think people are encouraged to work enough hours. Once they've taken off 28 days holiday, then they only work for 4 days of the 7 out of 48 the weeks remaining.