What new feed wheat?

[Jo28]

Not so sure about Saki! View attachment 973799View attachment 973800View attachment 973801
Gleam drilled around the same time, treated with the same fungicide programme.View attachment 973802View attachment 973803

we have both, both had the same fungicide programme but the saki has been cleaner all year. was the gleam drilled much later than the saki?

 

[Daniel]

we have both, both had the same fungicide programme but the saki has been cleaner all year. was the gleam drilled much later than the saki?

Within a couple of weeks of each other.

The Saki has looked great all year, it may be that it will still go on to yield well and the scruffiness at this late stage isn’t a problem?

I’ve had suggestions that it’s starting to ripen, but those flag leaves in the post above look diseased to me?

 

[nick...]

My Saki has a lot of tipping on flag leaves too but agronomist says it’s all ok.gleam is a lot better though
nick…

 

[teslacoils]

I hate to see tipping on flag leaves, but then if the heap in the shed is huge.....

 

[Hindsight]

I hate to see tipping on flag leaves, but then if the heap in the shed is huge.....

You are to young to have seen the vista created by Flutrafol (PP450) the lynchpin of a certain Lincolnshire distributors pension fund!

 

[teslacoils]

You are to young to have seen the vista created by Flutrafol (PP450) the lynchpin of a certain Lincolnshire distributors pension fund!

Did it cease to be a green and pleasant land?

I know the active as iirc it's used in the states for ceospora in beet.

 

[FarmerBruce]

Within a couple of weeks of each other.

The Saki has looked great all year, it may be that it will still go on to yield well and the scruffiness at this late stage isn’t a problem?

View attachment 973867

I’ve had suggestions that it’s starting to ripen, but those flag leaves in the post above look diseased to me?

We’ve saki. Half looks green as grass. Half like in your pictures. All 2nd wheat, all drilled within a week of each other, all had exactly the same chemistry. Just varying soil types!
Gleam looks much better on the whole

 

[Renaultman]

I hate to see tipping on flag leaves, but then if the heap in the shed is huge.....

Kerrin does it every year for me, but the heap in the shed is normally, at least, equal to anything else.

 

[Chalky]

A weeks difference in sowing, or a colder/warmer site is showing huge differences in septoria in the cougar parented vars eg saki, firefly. Remember developmentally saki is slower, throws leaves slower-so for a given date it is not as mature as a lot of vars. So greener now may be identical in real terms to a dirtier quicker variety/block. Cougar break down is showing real issues from end sept/very start october we are just south of humber

 

[ollie989898]

Has anyone seen any recent pictures from the chaps who were posting pictures of their no fungicide wheat back in early June?

All those threads/posts about people not spraying their wheat always make me chuckle. It's the stuff of fantasy.

 

[B'o'B]

RGT Silversurfer untreated plant on left
Plant on right had T1-0.75 Revystar + T2-1 Revystar + T3-0.75 Teb

Treated

Untreated

Ok the untreated is 24mx30m surrounded by treated. But pretty impressive only really found a touch of mildew on it all year

 

[Secret Agronomist]

Istabraq might finally be on the way our, skyscraper looks cleaner and better looking overall. Wont make any decisions until harvest.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

I hate to see tipping on flag leaves, but then if the heap in the shed is huge.....

Seemingly there was some experiment done whereby they cut off 25% of the flag leaf and it didn't affect yield. Now if there is disease as well there could be other effects. we get quite a lot of leaf miners in the tips.

 

[ollie989898]

I am an automatic cynic with things like disease scoring and yield data in general. 'Whoa this variety has 102% untreated yield!' or somesuch. Of course if this was true then over the years we would have gained yield and now be harvesting 20 tonnes/ha. A few percentage points in difference, I never saw the excitement in variety selection but that is just me.

The disease and lodging ratings I found similarly unexciting.

 

[B'o'B]

I am an automatic cynic with things like disease scoring and yield data in general. 'Whoa this variety has 102% untreated yield!' or somesuch. Of course if this was true then over the years we would have gained yield and now be harvesting 20 tonnes/ha. A few percentage points in difference, I never saw the excitement in variety selection but that is just me.

The disease and lodging ratings I found similarly unexciting.

RL needs a complete re-boot it seems to be giving less and less relevant data to farmers. Not only do they use a financially unviable fungicide program (even by the robust standards of the South West, never mind the East) for the treated program, I hear that this year they added a T4 spray at a timing that no product could be legally commercially used!
What useful data do growers get from that?
Unfortunately it is the RL that drives variety sales and so breeders have to select with the aim of getting on the RL if they want to have commercially successful varieties.

 

[Hindsight]

RL needs a complete re-boot it seems to be giving less and less relevant data to farmers. Not only do they use a financially unviable fungicide program (even by the robust standards of the South West, never mind the East) for the treated program, I hear that this year they added a T4 spray at a timing that no product could be legally commercially used!
What useful data do growers get from that?
Unfortunately it is the RL that drives variety sales and so breeders have to select with the aim of getting on the RL if they want to have commercially successful varieties.

RL increasingly looks like those pedigree sheep sales. Fatten up the ram. Wash and perm. Then sell. And as relevant to commercial production. Hey ho.

 

[teslacoils]

Haven't found anything consistently better than Clare was tbh. That's the trouble. Until I see a trail with the new gp3s Vs Clare I'm not really interested. Sooner the RL dies a death the better.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Haven't found anything consistently better than Clare was tbh. That's the trouble. Until I see a trail with the new gp3s Vs Clare I'm not really interested. Sooner the RL dies a death the better.

Might be just our farm, but we get best consistency from Revelation.