What % of winter crops not planted or destroyed

What % of winter crops not planted or destroyed

  • Less than 2%

    Votes: 100 17.0%
  • Between 2 and 5%

    Votes: 40 6.8%
  • Between 5 and 10%

    Votes: 63 10.7%
  • Between 10 and 20%

    Votes: 103 17.5%
  • More then 20%

    Votes: 70 11.9%
  • More than 35%

    Votes: 66 11.2%
  • More than 50%

    Votes: 146 24.8%

  • Total voters
    588

robs1

Member
Under the current rules it’s aloud so going to make the most of it while I can.
We generally grow a catch crop after winter barley which has always produced a seed by September so can’t see what the problem is as long as it’s meeting the requirements.

Also if they’re worried about too much land coming out of production why make it so you can’t grow a crop and still meet the criteria.
I agree it's within the rules and in some areas of the country and on some soils it might well work.
 

snarling bee

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Well Luxinum with Crystal did a lovely job on the blackgrass last autumn here, thankfully. Had enough of BG last year.
Anybody want any Stomp Aqua? (plan was to put it on with Liberator as a follow up)
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
Maybe it is seeing situations like this that has woken somebody at Defra up into the need to have to include ‘Food” into their SFI strategy. Pictures taken this morning.
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Winter Barley. It is there, has had 50Kgs N 2 weeks ago. But until it stops rain long enough and can dry up, won’t feed many.
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A bit better.


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Now 180degrees looking the distance onto lighter land:
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WTF do you do?

Best plus here from Direct Drilling this time is that it's definitively shown up exactly which bits of our eclectic mix of clays and shales are suitable for it and which are not.
 

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Flintstone

Member
Location
Berkshire
I’m a bit of a direct drilling convert, and I do hope that lots of people don’t give up on DD in their first/second year of it due to how their crops look this season. It really isn’t the system’s fault.

No matter what establishment method has been used this year, it has been unprecedented in terms of rain.

Stubbles drain so much better than soil that’s even been slightly cultivated, no matter what soil type.
 

Sam Partridge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Devon
I’m a bit of a direct drilling convert, and I do hope that lots of people don’t give up on DD in their first/second year of it due to how their crops look this season. It really isn’t the system’s fault.

No matter what establishment method has been used this year, it has been unprecedented in terms of rain.

Stubbles drain so much better than soil that’s even been slightly cultivated, no matter what soil type.
We don't do it yet but i'd like to, only just started ditching the plough at the moment. Its all very wellsaying don't judge dd on this year but seasons like this are very likely to be more frequent in the future and it has to be able to work in all conditions
 

Flintstone

Member
Location
Berkshire
To be fair, there’s no system that will be guaranteed to work with daily rainfall like we’ve all had since November.

The opportunities to get on drilling have been largely dictated by soil type, and the length of ‘dry window’ needed before different soils have been able to drill. Sometimes only need five dry days before they can get on, and others need two weeks plus.

All I was saying was that undisturbed stubbles do, without a doubt, make those ‘draining times’ shorter, therefore increasing the opportunities to drill during a problematic winter/spring like this.
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
To be fair, there’s no system that will be guaranteed to work with daily rainfall like we’ve all had since November.

The opportunities to get on drilling have been largely dictated by soil type, and the length of ‘dry window’ needed before different soils have been able to drill. Sometimes only need five dry days before they can get on, and others need two weeks plus.

All I was saying was that undisturbed stubbles do, without a doubt, make those ‘draining times’ shorter, therefore increasing the opportunities to drill during a problematic winter/spring like this.
I would say clays need a little bit of movement. I have been though everything once with our sabre to create some tilth last week and help it dry and will hopefully drill some today. Even on the lighter soils I learnt the sabre just slots in damper years
 

Old apprentice

Member
Arable Farmer
I would say clays need a little bit of movement. I have been though everything once with our sabre to create some tilth last week and help it dry and will hopefully drill some today. Even on the lighter soils I learnt the sabre just slots in damper years
Could you have a demonstration of a triton, seed drill they won't be far from you?
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Best plus here from Direct Drilling this time is that it's definitively shown up exactly which bits of our eclectic mix of clays and shales are suitable for it and which are not.

similar situation with some locally. Know of one that has had two failed attempts of winters cereal DD in some fields this year and still planning on a third attempt, if it ever dries up, with a spring barley 🤦
 

redsloe

Member
Location
Cornwall
Had a brief look at some wheat today. This is I reckon our best field of wheat, sadly its also our smallest!
Some Palladium after Spring Oats,
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Unfortunately there are large areas of this!
Typhoon after OSR
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I have a field of Palladium. Went dreadfully yellow 3 or 4 weeks ago then grew green again, I assumed it was because of a late fertiliser application. It appears to be going off again.

Have you noticed similar? Other varieties are fine.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
I’m a bit of a direct drilling convert, and I do hope that lots of people don’t give up on DD in their first/second year of it due to how their crops look this season. It really isn’t the system’s fault.

No matter what establishment method has been used this year, it has been unprecedented in terms of rain.

Stubbles drain so much better than soil that’s even been slightly cultivated, no matter what soil type.
my soils must be unique .
 

Timbo1080

Member
Location
Somerset
Best plus here from Direct Drilling this time is that it's definitively shown up exactly which bits of our eclectic mix of clays and shales are suitable for it and which are not.
Direct Drilling, and particularly Disc Zero Til, is totally unforgiving where there is a drainage issue....Which *appears* to be the case in that picture....Noting further that clays are again, less forgiving than more freely draining land at suffering from drainage issues.
Cultivations will hide and temporarily (Usually for only a season) overcome a minor drainage issue on clays, and longer on more freely draining soils. This is one of the principle reasons that people come to the conclusion that particularly disc Zero Til wont work on some soil types.
 

sahara

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset
I have a field of Palladium. Went dreadfully yellow 3 or 4 weeks ago then grew green again, I assumed it was because of a late fertiliser application. It appears to be going off again.

Have you noticed similar? Other varieties are fine.
This is the same field of Palladium today.
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It also went very yellow at about the same time as yours.
It's had 70kg of N so far (Yara Axan) and now needs it's 2nd dose, it responded quickly to the Nitrogen and has kept its colour.
Fairly soon after I put the N on it rained yet again, and I was a little worried about having done the right thing.
I think that I will put about 90kg N on in the 2nd dose and then assess again on what total rate to give it
The other Palladium fields are the same
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