What price are 12 month old suckler calves?

[Sussex Martin]

Way to cheap TF I reckon.

So do I!

Report on trade: This week saw a marvellous show of store cattle and probably one of the best quality entries seen at Ashford market for some years, a fact commented upon by many in attendance throughout the day. The size and quality of the catalogue obviously attracted several additional buyers and trade was competitive throughout with prices on a par with those achieved in recent weeks.
Many annual consignments of top quality single suckled yearling continental crosses (Limousin, Simmental, British Blue and Blonde) were on offer and very well received with the steers generally making £900 to £1100 and heifers £750 to £950. Highlights of the day included Limousin steers £950 from Foyle Farmers, Limousin and Simmental cross steers from £950 up to £1100 from G Bates Ltd, mainly Limousin cross steers from £910 up to £1045 from A J Bray and Limousin cross steers from £1010 up to £1150 from PN & C Burden.
A smart run of yearling Blonde and Blue cross heifers from R D E Spencer sold well in the £780 to £950 bracket with 12 mth Limousin cross heifers up to £890 and £860 from A J Bray and G R Orpin respectively. The second run of 16 mth Limousin crosses from D G & J W Gore again attracted plenty of interest with the steers making in the £1120 to £1140 bracket and heifers from £870 up to £1075. Again several aged cattle to finish short term were on offer with prices reflecting the favourable returns in the finished section. A single 15 mth red Aberdeen Angus cross steer topped the market at £1345 from A J Strand & Sons, a run of 19/20 mth Simmental x Friesian steers sold competitively in the £1010 to £1150 bracket from R P Kent & Son, 24 mth Sussex cross steers made to £1095 from P J & P B Wade, 24 mth Lincoln Red steers were to £1185 from K W & T A Andrews and 24 mth British Blue cross steers made up to £1,200 from Agripal Ltd.

 

[roscoe erf]

I sold them on farm, averaged £575 for the heifers and £640 for the steers.

i sold some around the beginning of this month on farm averaged 600 for heifers and 800 for the steers.

 

[d williams]

So do I!

Report on trade: This week saw a marvellous show of store cattle and probably one of the best quality entries seen at Ashford market for some years, a fact commented upon by many in attendance throughout the day. The size and quality of the catalogue obviously attracted several additional buyers and trade was competitive throughout with prices on a par with those achieved in recent weeks.
Many annual consignments of top quality single suckled yearling continental crosses (Limousin, Simmental, British Blue and Blonde) were on offer and very well received with the steers generally making £900 to £1100 and heifers £750 to £950. Highlights of the day included Limousin steers £950 from Foyle Farmers, Limousin and Simmental cross steers from £950 up to £1100 from G Bates Ltd, mainly Limousin cross steers from £910 up to £1045 from A J Bray and Limousin cross steers from £1010 up to £1150 from PN & C Burden.
A smart run of yearling Blonde and Blue cross heifers from R D E Spencer sold well in the £780 to £950 bracket with 12 mth Limousin cross heifers up to £890 and £860 from A J Bray and G R Orpin respectively. The second run of 16 mth Limousin crosses from D G & J W Gore again attracted plenty of interest with the steers making in the £1120 to £1140 bracket and heifers from £870 up to £1075. Again several aged cattle to finish short term were on offer with prices reflecting the favourable returns in the finished section. A single 15 mth red Aberdeen Angus cross steer topped the market at £1345 from A J Strand & Sons, a run of 19/20 mth Simmental x Friesian steers sold competitively in the £1010 to £1150 bracket from R P Kent & Son, 24 mth Sussex cross steers made to £1095 from P J & P B Wade, 24 mth Lincoln Red steers were to £1185 from K W & T A Andrews and 24 mth British Blue cross steers made up to £1,200 from Agripal Ltd.

I love armchair values a deal has been done neither buyer or seller had a gun to there head I presume both parties agreed the last thing ether needs to hear is they paid to much or not enough from someone at the other side of the country with the current situation in farming also you must be a very clever person to value stock without seeing

 

[Thick Farmer]

I should have mentioned that they were in a bunch of 120 of differing breeds and ages ranged from 9 to 13 months.

Yes the big ones looked cheap, but the small ones looked very expensive! I am happy with the result.

 

[Penmoel]

I should have mentioned that they were in a bunch of 120 of differing breeds and ages ranged from 9 to 13 months.

Yes the big ones looked cheap, but the small ones looked very expensive! I am happy with the result.

I can see the newspaper headlines now:-

"Thick Farmer knows what he is doing"

 

[Sussex Martin]

I love armchair values a deal has been done neither buyer or seller had a gun to there head I presume both parties agreed the last thing ether needs to hear is they paid to much or not enough from someone at the other side of the country with the current situation in farming also you must be a very clever person to value stock without seeing

All I did was to agree that in my opinion the OP did not get what they where worth and used the market report to back that up. I agree that it is difficult to value stock unseen, that is why mine are in the market next week. The people around the ring will decide for me!

 

[Thick Farmer]

I can see the newspaper headlines now:-

"Thick Farmer knows what he is doing"

HaHaHa. There's a first time for everything!

 

[roscoe erf]

I love armchair values a deal has been done neither buyer or seller had a gun to there head I presume both parties agreed the last thing ether needs to hear is they paid to much or not enough from someone at the other side of the country with the current situation in farming also you must be a very clever person to value stock without seeing

i totally agree with this no two calves are the same and beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

[Walterp]

English farmers tend to use heavier breeds of bulls to get a bigger calf, whilst the Limousin is almost universal here, resulting in smaller calves that aren't worth as much at 10 months, and will often be long keep cattle rather than destined for a fattening shed in the Midlands.

 

[Spartacus]

English farmers tend to use heavier breeds of bulls to get a bigger calf, whilst the Limousin is almost universal here, resulting in smaller calves that aren't worth as much at 10 months, and will often be long keep cattle rather than destined for a fattening shed in the Midlands.

I dont know about that round here, lim is almost universal here too, we run char bulls as thats what our buyers like.

 

[Walterp]

I dont know about that round here, lim is almost universal here too, we run char bulls as thats what our buyers like.

OK, what if I said that I've never seen a Charolais bull out in a field around here? Ever?

I heard of one, once, up Brecon way - he was so big that, after being bought, he 'collapsed' older cows when mounting 'em.

 

[Penmoel]

There are a few Charolis users around here many on Welsh Blacks, to try and get something decent out of them.

I remember once going to a well known Welsh Black breeder, one of, if not the oldest in the herd book , a very quiet man of few words,some of you may know him from what I have said now.

I asked him one day if he ever put Charolais on the WB's? the silence was deafening, I just wished the ground had opened up and swallowed me after saying it.

 

[Bull beef]

Well done thick farmer.. If you are buying anything else get Herefords 4.56 per kg deadweight .. Supermarkets want the Herefords and Angus breeds ... My friend buys for waitrose and he said the money will be in those 2 breeds of cattle as the meat is what the consumers want

 

[Spartacus]

OK, what if I said that I've never seen a Charolais bull out in a field around here? Ever?

I heard of one, once, up Brecon way - he was so big that, after being bought, he 'collapsed' older cows when mounting 'em.

I can believe that, some are unreal in size. Ours is a nice little one in comparison to some we saw at the sale, we had one oversized and put it down to it that the cows weren't getting in calf well enough.

 

[chipsngravy]

I love armchair values a deal has been done neither buyer or seller had a gun to there head I presume both parties agreed the last thing ether needs to hear is they paid to much or not enough from someone at the other side of the country with the current situation in farming also you must be a very clever person to value stock without seeing

But you can value weight, OP said good 350-400kg animals.

Suckler breed blue,lim and char at what......ave £1.64kg

What does it cost to keep a suckler cow again ?

 

[Bill the Bass]

I dont mean to be disrespectful but it does sound a bit cheap for suckler bred cattle allbeit taking into account we haven't seen them. Most suckler men up here would be expecting nearer 4 figures for 10-12 month old cattle in the current trade.

 

[d williams]

But you can value weight, OP said good 350-400kg animals.

Suckler breed blue,lim and char at what......ave £1.64kg

What does it cost to keep a suckler cow again ?

If you look at what was asked and what I replied you will see I said £2 kg plus or minus depending I also never said it was/wasn't enough and yes I do know what it cost to keep a cow
What I don't like is someone knocking a deal that both parties seemed happy with and honest enough to post

 

[chipsngravy]

Other week sold 10month lims steers & heifers £2.25 ave £916, best was £1035. 10 wks creep feed 2kg head. To feeder man be on hook for xmas.

10month Angus steers ave £860, heifers ave £740. No creep, again to feeder man.

But I get feck all SFP so have to make money on me cattle.

 

[Thick Farmer]

But you can value weight, OP said good 350-400kg animals.

Suckler breed blue,lim and char at what......ave £1.64kg

What does it cost to keep a suckler cow again ?

I think I was a bit optimistic with the weights!

 

[Thick Farmer]

Well done thick farmer.. If you are buying anything else get Herefords 4.56 per kg deadweight .. Supermarkets want the Herefords and Angus breeds ... My friend buys for waitrose and he said the money will be in those 2 breeds of cattle as the meat is what the consumers want

All the cows are calving to Angus this year and will be next year too.