whats the average BNG values for arable land, grass land and hedge rows?

[Doing it for the kids]

Just working on this, whole new world!

whats considered an average for the above, appreciate plenty of scope for vairation depending on whats there (or not there)

 

[Nearly]

@Coximus

 

[Retired Red]

Just working on this, whole new world!

whats considered an average for the above, appreciate plenty of scope for vairation depending on whats there (or not there)

Who does the quantifying?

 

[topground]

As a land owner it would probably be wise to count your fingers after shaking hands on a BNG contract with a developer.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

its for a planning matter. ecologist has given us some figures which mean very little to me, hence asking on here.

 

[Gedd]

If you take the money does the land have to come out of production or do you just carry on as normal,cut fert use,livestock numbers etc dont understand it myself cant get my head around this carbon job etc

 

[barnfield]

In units? Depends entirely on what your baseline score is, huge variation for grassland based on type and conditions. You can download the metric and have a play. What figures did they quote?

 

[Coximus]

its for a planning matter. ecologist has given us some figures which mean very little to me, hence asking on here.

feel free to PM me.

But generally speaking the wild west phase of selling a 10 acre field for 40k/ac are now over as the buyers have all aquired landbanks.

The value will be anything from 140-250% of the agricultural value of the land - with main vriables being;

Money upfront or every year/ whats the divide.

Liabilities IE who is doing what with it.

Can you claim subs going forward and does the BNG buyer indemnify you if your not elligble for say sfi or the new 2042 "RObotic farming support scheme" or is that the rick you take for cake today?

 

[Farmeraduk]

Does bng still qualify for apr?

 

[Coximus]

Does bng still qualify for apr?

Complex issue - I have a written answer from HMRC Conditional on my land - YES providing its entire sole use is agricultural or forestry - hence being a meadow cut for hay qualifies.

If 10% is scrub - then that 10% is no.

 

[steveR]

Complex issue - I have a written answer from HMRC Conditional on my land - YES providing its entire sole use is agricultural or forestry - hence being a meadow cut for hay qualifies.

If 10% is scrub - then that 10% is no.

Useful to be aware of. I guess the zillion dollar question, is what is described as scrub! A block of land left unmanaged and uncultivated will run rapidly through scrub and into natural woodland quite quickly on a lot of our land.

Your management schedule will be extremely useful in any future discussion with HMRC I am sure.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

its for a planning matter. ecologist has given us some figures which mean very little to me, hence asking on here.

These figures mean nothing to anyone but ecologists. I have filed numerous BnG calculations for planning applications and the only thing that really matters to the client is what are they going to have to plant/set aside/buy credits to meet the 10% gain.

 

[Coximus]

Useful to be aware of. I guess the zillion dollar question, is what is described as scrub! A block of land left unmanaged and uncultivated will run rapidly through scrub and into natural woodland quite quickly on a lot of our land.

Your management schedule will be extremely useful in any future discussion with HMRC I am sure.

Which is one of the reasons why we fought So hard to ensure that the model for the BNG was in effect CS/SFI low input grassland with forbs - but increasing the proportion of wildflowers in the mix.

Its absolutley key that the land was also grazed after summer - so the land use on a factual day to day basis remained farming - INdeed over the 30Year period 60% of the income associated with the land will be farming related (40% being the BNG payment - which was capital anyway).