Which 5 furrow plough?

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
We've still got one like that. The beam has some serious reinforcing. I've snapped it twice. After the 2nd time the blacksmith said he never wants to see it again!

You can replace all wearing parts. I've done all the balls on mine.

The bits I replaced that made biggest difference was the bushes that pin that goes through beam sits in.

Mine broke the bottom pin that turnover ram is mounted on maybe twice a season.

Used to snap the bolts that vari width slid on too.

We just kept it cause other tractors aren't fit to lift 6f and not worth a lot with amount of modifications done to beam.
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
if your soil doesnt scour fairly well i would go for slats, especially with a lot of dung on top / maize stubble to bury .
No if it sticks go for plastic boards. Our soil is real bad for stickin and with the plastic boards the only time i need a spade is if a jam a stone in her as can be seen by the skimmers and iv seen them alot worse and wev plenty of stones and no damage done yet to the plastic
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Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
No if it sticks go for plastic boards. Our soil is real bad for stickin and with the plastic boards the only time i need a spade is if a jam a stone in her as can be seen by the skimmers and iv seen them alot worse and wev plenty of stones and no damage done yet to the plasticView attachment 1009955
thats a nice plough youve got there Davy, how well does the plastic wear aamoi ?
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
thats a nice plough youve got there Davy, how well does the plastic wear aamoi ?
Id say it wouldnt be ideal in sharp ground but then a steel board will run clean there so its horses for courses. Ultimately steel will last longer but the plastic is doin really well for me so far, another point is plastic bends so less chance of breakin a board compared to steel as iv seen mine bend with a stone and just pop back into shape again
 
I would get a 300hp headstock. Most of problems I had with previous kv ploughs was 200 headstock.

I would think a 4220 would easily lift a 6f. If you have a vari width can easily shut it down if struggling for grip.

I would go for a 100 clearance if ploughing out a lot of grass. Mines shorter and blocks quite easily.

It's on a lwb t7. It has 3m press mounted on plough too.

I plan replacing that tractor with a 4220.

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A 6 furrow 100 would be very long for a fully mounted plough.
We have an ES 100 5 furrow and it's not far off the length of an 6F 85.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
A 6 furrow 100 would be very long for a fully mounted plough.
We have an ES 100 5 furrow and it's not far off the length of an 6F 85.
That's what we have a 5f es100 and 6f es85. Your right there's not a big difference in overall length. The 5f with 200hp headstock is much lighter. I had the old 5f on again last week and it felt really light compared to 6f.

We looked at a 6f es100 before buying the 85 and I thought it looked too big. The contractor selling it just had it on a tractor the same as mine though, and had been running 6f es100 since tm190s. He just pulled a press. Not mounted.

If travelling any distance I always remove toplink and transport plough on depth wheel. Will hopefully extend life of beam.
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Same here with my 5 furrow Kongskilde ,
Afaik the kongskilde and nh is the same but the overum is slightly different, the maìn difference being the kong/nh has the front furrow adjustment on a parallel linkage but the overum works on a slide which is a weaker point could u mabe verify that if u know just for my own personal knowledge
 

Finn farmer

Member
A 6 furrow 100 would be very long for a fully mounted plough.
This. Friend has a 6f 100 Kuhn on Fendt 936 and said he wouldn't want a 7th pair of bodies as it's very heavy as it is now. The lever effect that long mounted implements have is what gets you, not only the weight.
 

GOODYSMATE

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Location
suffolk
Afaik the kongskilde and nh is the same but the overum is slightly different, the maìn difference being the kong/nh has the front furrow adjustment on a parallel linkage but the overum works on a slide which is a weaker point could u mabe verify that if u know just for my own personal knowledge
Not 100% sure but i think you are right in the Overum works on a slide . NH/Kongskilde are definitely the same ,mine is exactly the same as yours apart from the colour and i have shearbolts on legs
 

stablegirl

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Location
North
Think the 6 furrow thing is a catch 22, where I could only pull it if it was a full variwidth and could narrow it if I needed to, this would make them too heavy and expensive.

That said I plough with the 5 opened right out, it's normally on the 4220 but sometimes on a claas 650, which is absolutely fine with a few weights on.

The long 5's and 6's must put some serious strain on the tractor back end and the headstock.

The comment about the kuhn needing more soil puts me off, but I have just said I run the kv at 18-20" wide.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Think the 6 furrow thing is a catch 22, where I could only pull it if it was a full variwidth and could narrow it if I needed to, this would make them too heavy and expensive.

That said I plough with the 5 opened right out, it's normally on the 4220 but sometimes on a claas 650, which is absolutely fine with a few weights on.

The long 5's and 6's must put some serious strain on the tractor back end and the headstock.

The comment about the kuhn needing more soil puts me off, but I have just said I run the kv at 18-20" wide.
Main issue with 6 is lifting it. I've never went back to 5 cause I can't pull it. Just need some weight on front.

6 is cheaper used because most farmers prefer 5 as easier to lift.

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stablegirl

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Location
North
I very nearly bought one like this but missed by the time I got organised.


If I didn't like the 6th I could just drop it off.

But obviously back on manual variwidth, don't really like that transport wheel sticking out!
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I was going to buy a kuhn 6f. There's a good review in farm machinery journal where someone was running one on a 724 fendt in front of a quadtrack on a pH combi!

Worth a read.
 
KV, have their down sides, they could do with grease points on the vari width linkages, and the creaking noise of them is annoying, but they will do a job in most situations, as one of my mates says, even when a KV isn't really doing a very good job it still tends to be doing a good job.

We had a Rabe on slats before, and although it could do a good enough job, varying conditions had you out with the spanner a lot.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
I very nearly bought one like this but missed by the time I got organised.


If I didn't like the 6th I could just drop it off.

But obviously back on manual variwidth, don't really like that transport wheel sticking out!
There's a Kuhn like that on farcebook marketplace atm.

its a heavy plough but the H4 is a good general purpose body
 

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