Which conventional baler best for haylage?

[holywell farmer]

NH575 are good, but it's also a case of wear, everything needs to be spot on or things start to fail. Plus it's cost and budget, if you've loads to do then it obviously isn't an issue, but for a thousand or so, £6-8k isn't really viable. What doubts do you have about the 370?

Do nh still make small balers ?

 

[hang-on]

Do nh still make small balers ?

Yes you can buy a brand new bc5070 I think is the model. As there's a new Holland d dealer within 5 miles of me here keeps telling me about it lol

 

[holywell farmer]

Yes you can buy a brand new bc5070 I think is the model. As there's a new Holland d dealer within 5 miles of me here keeps telling me about it lol

Massey do an inline baler

 

[JD-Kid]

have a claas 65 and it worked on doing haylage a few others i know can drop knots on damper stuff ...
know a few guys with the beeline type balers doing haylage seem to have a good run with them more the later IH or MF ones

 

[davedb]

Where's @jimmer hes the man in the know on conventional baling

 

[hang-on]

Massey do an inline baler

They are ridiculously dear, an 1830 I think is the current model

 

[Kevtherev]

What does mr @smcapstick sell?

 

[davedb]

What does mr @smcapstick sell?

Some old shite like normal no doubt

 

[smcapstick]

What does mr @smcapstick sell?

Sipma

£9,995 + VAT for the 4000
£10,350 + VAT for the 4010 (hydraulic pick up reel)
£10,800 + VAT for the 4011 (hydraulic pick up reel and drawbar)

 

[smcapstick]

Some old shite like normal no doubt

Cheeky oik!

 

[brynseiri]

Yes you can buy a brand new bc5070 I think is the model. As there's a new Holland d dealer within 5 miles of me here keeps telling me about it lol

How much did they quote you for the new bc5070?

 

[hang-on]

How much did they quote you for the new bc5070?

I might have it written down somewhere I can't just remember it off the top of my head.

 

[ap7610]

How much did they quote you for the new bc5070?

I priced a brand new nh, 5060 or 5070, can't remember model as there where two on offer, ones a farmers machine and the other was a slightly heavier contractors machine, off hand the stronger one was£16000 and the other was £14,500. Bought two ih 440s for £600 instead and baled around 1000 hay bales, and never missed a knot!

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

They are ridiculously dear, an 1830 I think is the current model

1840. They're not a huge amount more than a Welger. We had a brand new MF in line this season, not a chance we'd go back to a conventional now. Solid bales, fast, easy, straight behind, follows, no messing about up tight lanes and gateways (one of the main reasons we wanted one). Do what suits where you go and what you do.

 

[ffukedfarmer]

ermmm that's not a conventional baler. And that's not haylage

 

[Wellytrack]

 

[Aidenmeagher]

Try stacking the bl***y things then! It may not have the output of a welger but if you want decent bales where every one is the same size then it's a JD every time

Jd won’t bale hay after the sun goes down never mind haylage

 

[Roy_H]

On our first ever go into baling haylage my auk boy was walking round after to check the length of the bales actually. You clearly have never used a 445d cause I'd be lapping you and your Massey on the second or third lap around the field.

In 1979 IH sent us a prototype 445D to try , my could it gobble it up! The only difference between that one and the older 445 were the knotters, the D stood for Deering which was the STYLE of the 'new' knotters. In reality they weren't new at all , they were manufactured by Rasspe, the same knotters as used by New Holland + many others. Their field engineer admitted to me that the weakest link in The IH baler range was the knotter, so they had decided to 'swallow their pride' as it were and use a different but well-proven knotter instead.
Then later on they went and spoiled it all by ditching the Doncaster built balers and have the new range made by someone else (Vicon I believe?) apparently they weren't that good.

 

[grainboy]

Have this available,

 

[balerman]

In 1979 IH sent us a prototype 445D to try , my could it gobble it up! The only difference between that one and the older 445 were the knotters, the D stood for Deering which was the STYLE of the 'new' knotters. In reality they weren't new at all , they were manufactured by Rasspe, the same knotters as used by New Holland + many others. Their field engineer admitted to me that the weakest link in The IH baler range was the knotter, so they had decided to 'swallow their pride' as it were and use a different but well-proven knotter instead.
Then later on they went and spoiled it all by ditching the Doncaster built balers and have the new range made by someone else (Vicon I believe?) apparently they weren't that good.

The Vicon balers were pure IH underneath,they were spoilt cos they speeded them up to 90 ram strokes per minute to get more output.But it was a mistake cos it made them unreliable,we still use one but drive it at about 480 which helps a lot