Which maize silage additive.

[mo!]

Does anyone have a scientific based review of maize silage additives? Not just "ours is the best" or "we use this one because we always have."

 

[mo!]

Anyone?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

http://www.grevilliaag.com.au/silacextra.aspx

This seems to be about as good as it gets, it takes 3 days to really kick off rather than straight away. Nor sure if it's for maize but it's what our local farmers use now, for grass..
Not too sure who has inoculant but think @Great In Grass does?

 

[Kingofgrass]

Try safesil (Calvin cave) cracking stuff it's preservative.you can tell if you don't use it

 

[cozzie]

Try safesil (Calvin cave) cracking stuff it's preservative.you can tell if you don't use it

are you seeing a improvement in digestibility or increase in energy or just reduction in moulds after using this product.

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Would like to see some proper data of them pitched against each other in one of the farming publications.

It's hard to make an informed choice when each one tells you they're the best.

 

[Kingofgrass]

Less waste on top, doesn't go off as quick on the face.use it in the grass aswel and if the cows don't eat everything up that day they will the next,any other additive etc they won't eat it at all.for farmers do something similar had two ibcs of it off them last 1.12 a Ltr I'm sure great in grass will sort you something similar out cheaper never used his tho

 

[Great In Grass]

Would like to see some proper data of them pitched against each other in one of the farming publications.

It's hard to make an informed choice when each one tells you they're the best.

It was done some years ago and published in the Farmers Weekly each year I found very few users took much notice.

 

[Great In Grass]

We offer a product which is a combination of feed preservatives Sodium benzoate and Sodium nitrite which are in a safe to use format that will not harm machinery or concrete. Cost £1.55/tonne treated fresh weight and apply 1 litre/tonne (water can be added to increase volume to suit applicators). I won't say it's the best for @mo! 's sake but it's as good as anyone else!

Edit: small carriage charge but negotiable.

 

[mo!]

It was done some years ago and published in the Farmers Weekly each year I found very few users took much notice.

That's probably more to do with the quality of FW reviews than anything else. I've got 37 ac maize to harvest but it's a bit patchy, care to quote for 600t's worth of your product. Delivery to York.

 

[Great In Grass]

That's probably more to do with the quality of FW reviews than anything else. I've got 37 ac maize to harvest but it's a bit patchy, care to quote for 600t's worth of your product. Delivery to York.

Sorry should have explained more completely independent trials which were published in the FW for all to see.

 

[Great In Grass]

That's probably more to do with the quality of FW reviews than anything else. I've got 37 ac maize to harvest but it's a bit patchy, care to quote for 600t's worth of your product. Delivery to York.

I've sent you details.

 

[mo!]

Sorry should have explained more completely independent trials which were published in the FW for all to see.

I don't suppose you have a link?

 

[deleted user 837354]

Majority of folks I know use microbio stuff, the guy who owns the company is really into the science of it.

Main benefit of using additive is that it stays a bit more stable once the clamp is opened. I would not recommend anyone tries to make wholecrop without it.

 

[mo!]

Majority of folks I know use microbio stuff, the guy who owns the company is really into the science of it.

Main benefit of using additive is that it stays a bit more stable once the clamp is opened. I would not recommend anyone tries to make wholecrop without it.

We had a poor experience on some wheat wholecrop with a bio product and some family had the same. When they had theirs tested there was no sign of the bugs. They got paid out but still had a heap of hot silage. Maybe these things have improved?

 

[Kingofgrass]

That's probably more to do with the quality of FW reviews than anything else. I've got 37 ac maize to harvest but it's a bit patchy, care to quote for 600t's worth of your product. Delivery to York.

Just check ur contractor can put it on at that rate some can't round here,good luck I'll wager you use it again and again

 

[deleted user 837354]

We had a poor experience on some wheat wholecrop with a bio product and some family had the same. When they had theirs tested there was no sign of the bugs. They got paid out but still had a heap of hot silage. Maybe these things have improved?

I must say that in my previous life I saw a lot of Biotal product used, and never heard anything bad about them. I have known people use a lot of preservator for maize and wholecrop, but microbio seem to be virtually everywhere now?

 

[Great In Grass]

We had a poor experience on some wheat wholecrop with a bio product and some family had the same. When they had theirs tested there was no sign of the bugs. They got paid out but still had a heap of hot silage. Maybe these things have improved?

You can't actually test for the 'bugs' because of the way they work, they drop the pH rapidly and then it gets to acidic for them they die. The lactic acid content figure on a silage analysis will give a good indication of if they worked or not.

 

[deleted user 837354]

You can't actually test for the 'bugs' because of the way they work, they drop the pH rapidly and then it gets to acidic for them they die. The lactic acid content figure on a silage analysis will give a good indication of if they worked or not.

In what way does the lactic acid figure show efficacy? If it is lower than is typical?

 

[Great In Grass]

In what way does the lactic acid figure show efficacy? If it is lower than is typical?

Bacteria produce lactic acid which leads to a rapid fermentation within 2 days, high lactic acid figures generally point to the use of an inoculant.