ollie989898
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Nothing wrong with crimp at all either mind. It's good stuff. But then wholecrop can be 40% starch as well.
Wholecrop choices.
- Thread starter shumungus
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Nothing wrong with crimp at all either mind. It's good stuff. But then wholecrop can be 40% starch as well.
- Location
- Essex
I would grow wheat, oats barley and peas together for disease control, yield and protein.
- Location
- Co antrim
As said he could crimp it
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
We were thinking of doing the same but undersowing with Italian ryegrass or westerwolds. Just a 1-2 year mix. Hopefully get cut of silage after whole crop off and winter grazing, then plough up following spring.
Would this be possible? Would be with peas and spring barley. Targets bulk, to fill the pit.
Would this be possible? Would be with peas and spring barley. Targets bulk, to fill the pit.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Westerwolds be best , cheaper and gets away quick
- Location
- Essex
If westerwolds don't present a weed problem, I would include some of that in the mix and red clover for longer life.
- Location
- Essex
Why not mix the whole lot up and drill together? I would also add some red clover if it likes your farm. Peas this year and clover next year will do away with the need for any bought n.
In fact, why don't you mix your longer term species in as well? Ploughing next year is going to use a fair bit of diesel as well as making an unproductive period between the two crops, when it could be growing.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
The peas and barley will be drilled together. Not sure about grass and red clover. Fair variety of seed sizes.
The purpose of not mixing a long term mix is, there is probably a fair chance it will end up going flat. This would smother a expensive long term mix. The westerwold mix will be cheaper and hopefully hardier and at less risk of destruction if it goes flat.
I could cut spring barley and pea seedrate, but would lose out on yield.
you have wheat seed ordered, plough in the broiler litter, spread evenly at max 4 ton/ac and no more than 1 bag 27N/ac on emergence. Wholecrop Harvest when grain cheesey ripe, do use some fungicide to keep clean and maximise grain/energy yield. Put in silo in layer with grass silage - watch out for rats, they love wholecrop, DONT round bale silage it--rats destroy it.
- Location
- Ballyclare Northern Ireland
That's pretty much the plan.
Do people like Westerwolds then? We sew a field last spring after a disastrous DD spring barley sowing, to try to get a crop of some sort in the summer. We silaged the Westerwolds. We have a black seam of sh1t running through our silage pit as a result. Never growing the stuff again.
- Location
- Essex
Did it get much n?
The same as a normal 2nd cut grass crop.
- Location
- Ballyclare Northern Ireland
At what stages does spring wheat for wholecrop usually need sprayed?
- Location
- Co antrim
If u give william witherow a ring hel come out and look at your crop and sell u whatever it needs
- Location
- Ballyclare Northern Ireland
I have that sorted as it is going to be managed for me but I was just wondering in advance what spraying if gets.
- Location
- Co antrim
Youl need to spray it for weeds,disease and growth regulator to keep it standing. Id put on the growth regulator when its between 8-12 inches tall to keep it standing
- Location
- Essex
This is starting to read like an advertorial in the farming press.
I'm sure you're all really good farmers with loads of experience but all I see is a game of oneupmanship to see who can spend the most.
I'm sure you're all really good farmers with loads of experience but all I see is a game of oneupmanship to see who can spend the most.
- Location
- Ballyclare Northern Ireland
Don't understand? Explain please.
Sheep
Member
- Location
- Northern Ireland
Jumping in on this trend too, how does everyone manage undersowing Spring Barley with grass? I have three fields that will be wholecropped, I'd like to undersow two of them.
Muck, barley drilled, grass broadcast and close the gate? Sound reasonable?
Will I get away with a slurry pass once barley and grass is established or would an artificial N pass be more beneficial?
Muck, barley drilled, grass broadcast and close the gate? Sound reasonable?
Will I get away with a slurry pass once barley and grass is established or would an artificial N pass be more beneficial?